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Subject:I got a "Not Responding" Problem...
Posted by: drewk
Date:5/8/2002 10:01:30 AM

Man.... Let me start out with some quick history here.... I got a virus which was driving me crazy and I couldn't get cleared up sooooo... I went back to square one reinstalling my entire system on clean hardrive. Ok, so I've got two harddrives on my system. I'm using one, the C: to hold my operating systems... yes, systemS.. I went ahead and installed XP along with the original Win98 that came with my system... Unlike Win98 & earlier versions, XP doesn't HAVE to be in the first partition and I've got the two operating systems completely separate of each other and using a dual boot arrangement. Why did I do this?? Well, because God Bless Microsoft... I knew that some of my hardware/software most certainly won't run on XP and WOW!!! Guess what... some certainly doesn't!!

OK... given this, here is the problem. I re-installed ACID 2.0 & then Acid Pro3 which I had upgraded to before this problem under XP for starters. Well, Acid Pro 3 ran like ... well you know... It was locking up... for a few seconds when running playback then I could do soemthing... then a few times of this and it would finally lockup to where I couldn't do anything at all... Do the CTRL-ALT-DEL thing and sure enough ACID Pro 3 is "Not Responding" and had to End Task. Ok... so I got frustrated with this and uninstalled. I know XP seems to tax your CPU more or use more memory (I have 256k) so... I went under Win98 where I use to have no problem with Acid Pro 3 at all and installed. It's doing the same thing now as under XP and it use to run fine.

Here are my questions based on the only two things that are different now with my system. Does Direct X 8.1 cause these kinds of problems??? I DID upgrade to this version and I'm wondering if my system just can't deal with it. Have you seen this?? Also... I have installed the Acid Pro 3 on my secondary harddrive instead of where the operating system is. Now, I haven't had any problem with software installed here, but could there be a problem with this?? I wouldn't think so, but anymore I don't know...

At any rate, any help would be MOST appreciated.
Thanks in advance......

Subject:RE: I got a
Reply by: groovewerx
Date:5/8/2002 11:42:02 AM

be sure you have the latest version of acid...

Subject:RE: I got a
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:5/8/2002 11:48:50 AM

Can you give details as to what's in your system? (Both hardware and software.)

Definitely try updating your video card and your soundcard drivers if you haven't done so. Try beta drivers if you have to. Also maybe reinstall DirectX 8.1. (You can't reinstall 8.1 on Windows XP though.)

Why do you have both ACID 2.0 and ACID Pro 3.0 installed? I don't think that would cause any problems (I used to have ACID Pro 2.0 and the ACID Pro 3.0 beta installed without any problems) but I was just curious.

There shouldn't be any problem with installing ACID Pro on a secondary hard drive or DirectX 8.1.

Try the tweaks suggested for using Windows XP as a DAW at MusicXP.net. (The site seems slow today so be aware.)

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: I got a
Reply by: drewk
Date:5/9/2002 12:27:37 AM

I installed 2.0 simply because I orginally purchased the upgrade version so I wanted to make sure the system saw it.... Besides, we live in a time where harddrive space is cheap, not a problem.

The one thing that bothers me though.... Why does Win98 give me a problem when it never did before?? This is something that really bugs me.... I had the same version, the most recent one, running on 98 before and now it doesn't run worth a crap. The only difference is the Direct X 8.1. XP comes with 8.1 and they both now don't run worth a crap. I'm thinking 8.1 has got to be at the bottom of this...



Subject:RE: I got a
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:5/9/2002 11:36:46 AM

I believe an "upgrade" version is really just a full version, ready to install fresh by itself. You simply give Sonic Foundry your registered number from your previous version when you go to order the upgrade and you're basically golden.

I didn't have that many problems with Windows 98 Second Edition and ACID Pro 3.0, but the bugs and crashes are almost nonexistent in Windows XP, and even then (when they do happen) they don't bring down my whole system like they did with Win 98 SE, usually with a BSOD or a hard lock. I'm attributing it all to Win 9x's general instability vs. Win XP's superior and robust NT kernel.

Your peers need to know what's in your system so that we can make an assessment as to what might be going on. It might not be DirectX 8.1. (I'm not having no such problems with 8.1.) It might be something else instead, like a buggy video or soundcard driver. If it worked fine at first and then suddenly went kablooey, something went wrong with either hardware or software.

A possible example would be a thunderstorm wreaking havoc on your system. It doesn't take that much to zap a motherboard or any of its components (chipset, soundcard, etc.), and unless you have an uninterruptible power supply (UPS), I would suggest you always unplug your system during a storm. Still another is power spikes, which can do the same thing, and you wouldn't even know it's occuring until the damage is done. Power sags (brownouts) can starve a system for the power that it needs, causing malfunction.

I don't mean to scare you or anything. I'm just trying to say that computers are complex machines with potentially complex problems.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: I got a
Reply by: drewk
Date:5/10/2002 10:49:06 AM

ahhh... I don't think I've got a motherboard problem... You see, when I went to re-install everything, I got REALLY nervous about ACID not working properly so I pulled the original harddrive out and put a new one in. Now, I've pulled the new and swapped back to the old and it works fine when I run Acid off my original system. Something is going on now on the new drive. The fact that XP doesn't work doesn't really bother me, but that Win98 won't on the new system, well that does because I was having zero problems before (and now on the old system). That is why the only thing different is the Direct X 8.1 and I'm just wondering if this is the key. So far XP runs kind of crappy on my system which I thought it might as my processor is probably on the low end for the operating system at 433mhZ. XP runs a lot of crap in the background.
Yes, I do have a UPS system which also conditions the juice coming in....

Subject:RE: I got a
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:5/11/2002 1:20:42 PM

If you've got a lot of RAM, Windows XP should be OK on a slower processor. I would recommend at the very least 256 MB or more. I have a 350 MHz system w/256 MB of PC100 SDRAM and XP runs just fine on it.

If this is an older system, it just might be that XP doesn't like it all that much. You might want to consider updating everything that you possibly can, including the system's BIOS to see if that helps any. If this is a vendor-made system (Dell, Gateway, etc.), either check out any motherboard manuals that came with the system or consult their Web site to see if any such updates exist for your particular model.

Be also sure to check out the link in my first post on using XP as a DAW. There's sure to be a tweak there to help you out.

HTH,
Iacobus

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