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Subject:Unable to Open .mp2 Posted by: thdrman Date:6/3/2002 3:52:09 PM In previous versions of Sound Forge I was able to open mpeg & mp2 files for editing purposes and then save them as a wave file or other supported format. Is it not possible to even open the file now in Sound Forge 6.0a without the Main Concept plug in? I don't need to save the file as mp2,(which would require the Main Concept plug-in) I just need be able to open the files. Please help.
Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2 Reply by: sk Date:8/21/2002 6:36:45 AM Hey, thndrman - I think I just ran into the same problem as you. The file I d/l'd said it was an mp3, but SF 6.0 wouldn't open it; neither would EAC. All I wanted to do, like you, was save it as a wav file. I kept getting the message to buy the Main Concept plug in. I resorted to an 'old trick' to at least get it into .wav form - I opened it with Winamp 2.8, and then used the 'waveout' plug-in to zap it into a .wav file in less than 10 seconds! I know that's a questionable practice in terms of whether or not it degrades the sound quality by going that route, and I'd rather do it if I don't have to, but I do in some cases, like this, where I don't really want that plug-in just for the few mpegs or mp2's I come across. I just wanted to toss that option out here in case you didn't know about it, just to give you another alternative. sk
Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2 Reply by: Chienworks Date:8/21/2002 8:37:10 AM Are you folks sure it's asking you to purchase the MainConcept plugin? Or is it just asking you to register it? I can open and save MP3 and MPEG 1 & 2 files with SoundForge 6. The first time i used one of those files it asked me to register the MPEG plugin (for free). SK: i can't think of any reason why WinAmp's wave plugin would degrade the quality any more than opening the file in SoundForge would, unless WinAmp writes cruddy software ;) Opening the file in SoundForge basically does the same thing as playing/converting the file in WinAmp.
Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2 Reply by: sk Date:8/21/2002 12:05:29 PM Yes. I'm pretty sure it was requiring purchase, not registration. With regard to the matter of sonic degradation, it might be more related to whether or not any additional filters/EQ/DSPs/plug-ins, etc. were being run in Winamp at the time. As I recall it (because I used to, and sometimes still do use Enhancer 017, a Winamp Plug-in DSP, to 'fill out' some mp3s that I write-out directly to wav files) the argument comes from the fact that these changes would be occurring in 16 bit mode OUTSIDE of the SF environment, while any of the alterations to the files being made inside the SF environment could be done in 24 or 32 bit, even though eventually the file would have to be brought back down/dithered to 16 bit mode to be able to really use/listen to the file. I wasn't sure if simply converting from the mpeg to wav process using Winamp's 'write/out' capacity had any damaging effect or not. What I have noticed is that sometimes when using that write-out capacity of Winamp, in conjunction with Enhancer 017, is that a loud, (fortunately, usually editable) annoying glitch would appear at the very beginning of a song. But I think that was related more to something in Enhancer 017, and not just the write-out option in Winamp. People do need to realize, however, when using this option, that ANY EQ settings or DSP settings, etc. that are active in Winamp at the time you convert the file will also be integrated into the resulting wav file. The other thing that people need to remember to do is CHANGE THE SETTING IN WINAMP BACK to the regular output option. Otherwise, what ends up happening is that each time you play a song no sound comes out and the file just shoots across and plays in 15 seconds. Some folks might have forgotten that Winamp was set to convert directly to a wav file, and they might then try another file, thinking something is wrong. And then maybe another, etc. What obviously will happen is that they'll end up creating large wav files over and over again, until they remember that it's because they had engaged the 'write-out' option. sk (Not that I'VE ever done that. lol)
Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2 Reply by: Cassandra Date:9/12/2003 7:06:40 AM Chienworks: When I try to open an MP3 file to edit it, I get the message "the file is not in a supported file format. I am using SoundForge XP 4.5. In the list of options, MPEG or .mp3 is not even offered.

Subject:Unable to Open .mp2

Posted by: thdrman

Date:6/3/2002 3:52:09 PM

In previous versions of Sound Forge I was able to open mpeg & mp2 files for editing purposes and then save them as a wave file or other supported format. Is it not possible to even open the file now in Sound Forge 6.0a without the Main Concept plug in? I don't need to save the file as mp2,(which would require the Main Concept plug-in) I just need be able to open the files. Please help.

Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2

Reply by: sk

Date:8/21/2002 6:36:45 AM

Hey, thndrman -

I think I just ran into the same problem as you. The file I d/l'd said it was an mp3, but SF 6.0 wouldn't open it; neither would EAC. All I wanted to do, like you, was save it as a wav file. I kept getting the message to buy the Main Concept plug in. I resorted to an 'old trick' to at least get it into .wav form - I opened it with Winamp 2.8, and then used the 'waveout' plug-in to zap it into a .wav file in less than 10 seconds! I know that's a questionable practice in terms of whether or not it degrades the sound quality by going that route, and I'd rather do it if I don't have to, but I do in some cases, like this, where I don't really want that plug-in just for the few mpegs or mp2's I come across. I just wanted to toss that option out here in case you didn't know about it, just to give you another alternative.

sk

Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:8/21/2002 8:37:10 AM

Are you folks sure it's asking you to purchase the MainConcept plugin? Or is it just asking you to register it? I can open and save MP3 and MPEG 1 & 2 files with SoundForge 6. The first time i used one of those files it asked me to register the MPEG plugin (for free).

SK: i can't think of any reason why WinAmp's wave plugin would degrade the quality any more than opening the file in SoundForge would, unless WinAmp writes cruddy software ;) Opening the file in SoundForge basically does the same thing as playing/converting the file in WinAmp.

Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2

Reply by: sk

Date:8/21/2002 12:05:29 PM

Yes. I'm pretty sure it was requiring purchase, not registration. With regard to the matter of sonic degradation, it might be more related to whether or not any additional filters/EQ/DSPs/plug-ins, etc. were being run in Winamp at the time. As I recall it (because I used to, and sometimes still do use Enhancer 017, a Winamp Plug-in DSP, to 'fill out' some mp3s that I write-out directly to wav files) the argument comes from the fact that these changes would be occurring in 16 bit mode OUTSIDE of the SF environment, while any of the alterations to the files being made inside the SF environment could be done in 24 or 32 bit, even though eventually the file would have to be brought back down/dithered to 16 bit mode to be able to really use/listen to the file. I wasn't sure if simply converting from the mpeg to wav process using Winamp's 'write/out' capacity had any damaging effect or not. What I have noticed is that sometimes when using that write-out capacity of Winamp, in conjunction with Enhancer 017, is that a loud, (fortunately, usually editable) annoying glitch would appear at the very beginning of a song. But I think that was related more to something in Enhancer 017, and not just the write-out option in Winamp. People do need to realize, however, when using this option, that ANY EQ settings or DSP settings, etc. that are active in Winamp at the time you convert the file will also be integrated into the resulting wav file. The other thing that people need to remember to do is CHANGE THE SETTING IN WINAMP BACK to the regular output option. Otherwise, what ends up happening is that each time you play a song no sound comes out and the file just shoots across and plays in 15 seconds. Some folks might have forgotten that Winamp was set to convert directly to a wav file, and they might then try another file, thinking something is wrong. And then maybe another, etc. What obviously will happen is that they'll end up creating large wav files over and over again, until they remember that it's because they had engaged the 'write-out' option.

sk

(Not that I'VE ever done that. lol)

Subject:RE: Unable to Open .mp2

Reply by: Cassandra

Date:9/12/2003 7:06:40 AM

Chienworks:

When I try to open an MP3 file to edit it, I get the message "the file is not in a supported file format. I am using SoundForge XP 4.5. In the list of options, MPEG or .mp3 is not even offered.