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Subject:Problems on "Remastering a 33 Rpm Vinyl With Sound Forge 5.0f"
Posted by: Apico
Date:7/2/2002 3:27:31 AM

I did used Sound Forge 5.0f for my vinyl's remastering works.
There is no problem for records the sound to Sound Forge.
But,i want to ask u guys,what is the best "order" for remastering a vinyl????

This is my "frequent" order for remastering a vinyl.

"Volume>Sonic Foundry Click And Crackle Removal>Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction>

Sonic Foundry Paragraphic Eq>Sonic Foundry Multiband Dynamics>

Sonic Foundry Noise Gate>Sonic Foundry Wavehammer>Sonic Foundry Normalize "

I think that the sound quality can be more excellent by reorder these configurations.I really hope that u guys can help me.Your opinions are appreciate.

P.s Please don't offers me to use other products.I only use Sound Forge and its xfx packs for my works.And i believed that tools provided by Sound Forge's Team Are Perfect for Sound Editing.Cheers....
If you have your own "best technique" that you don't want to share with others.You can drop me a line at "djtenshi2001@yahoo.com".Thanks!!!


Subject:RE: Problems on
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:7/2/2002 8:18:42 AM

I'm not sure i can offer a better order, but i will suggest that you could probably get by with LESS steps. Every time you do one of those steps you potentially lose some of the quality of the sound. In particular, you shouldn't have to use volume, wave hammer, AND normalize. You can eliminate the volume step at the beginning by adjusting the input gain instead. Wave hammer should be able to give you a finished output that doesn't need to be normalized. That would save you two processing steps.

If you're using a proper phonograph preamp with the RIAA frequency response curve built in, you shouldn't need to adjust EQ unless you really want the sound to be different from the original recording. Also, the original recording has already been compressed when it was mastered, and you shouldn't really need the dynamics step either.

Subject:RE: Problems on
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:7/2/2002 11:11:14 AM

I agree with Chien. Try and maintain as much of the orginal as possible. I know you didn't want to hear about "other" products but I use only 2 in my vinyl restore chain - BBE Sonic Maximizer to bring out the dynamics a bit and a touch of Waves L2 (using the CD Master preset).

I did a series of vinyl cuts last week in Forge 6.0 and the result was as good or better than some CD's I have. The transfers were very clean (as vinyl can get) and very open sounding. Luckily, my LP collection was kept pristine over the years with almost no pops or clicks so I don't bother with any click and pop plugs in the chain. Having a real good sound card and a good receiver/preamp helps a lot.

Cheers,

Cuzin B

Subject:RE: Problems on
Reply by: ATP
Date:7/2/2002 2:20:31 PM

in your case you could indeed do with less processes.

but, if you use Sound Forge 6, you'll be able to chain all your DirectX plugins, listen to them in real time without changing the original file, change the order of effects to your liking in real time, and when you're satisfied apply all effects in one process. that should definitely help at the loss-of-quality-due-to-many-renders problem. :)

Subject:RE: Problems on "Remastering a 33 Rpm Vinyl With Sound Forge 5.0f."
Reply by: Apico
Date:7/3/2002 12:41:30 AM

Mr.Chienworks,

Thanks for your opinions.I currently have a lot of vinlys to remasters.Can you directly offer me best way by remaster using Sonic Foundry's Plugins???I know that i shouldn't ask such a stupid question.
I will be very happy if you can help me,please.Thanks!!!


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