AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions... -ACID Product Family

Subject:AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions... Posted by: FuTz Date:8/21/2002 9:00:12 PM I've been asking in the Vegas Forum but I'd like to have some input from here too... Do any of you use Acid -a lot- with VV3? I'd like to get the APro4 but there seems to be a few bugs to fix. What I'd like would be to use an old MIDI beatbox I got for years and to create loops based on real sounds taken from video clips. I'd like to be able to create these loops and edit them after (i.e.: lenght etc... to "fit" the same loop in different projects). I'd also like to record (from guitar, bass, microphone, etc...)here and there. The problem for me has been, until now, not being able to really synchronise, let's say, a few hammer hits (taken from a video clip) with a drumbeat on a music bed. Every time, there's a delay that comes up after a few seconds... If I get it ok, AcidPro would completely fix my problem, no? And also: Does Acid "straighten up" beats that are not exactly thight, I mean, put the peaks -automatically- where they should be? Thanks for your help!
Subject:RE: AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions... Reply by: Iacobus Date:8/22/2002 11:32:18 AM I would probably say you can't lose by having both apps. You'll basically have the best of both worlds with Vegas doing the multitracking and ACID Pro doing the looping. The programs (I think) were meant to be interchangable. You could take a music bed that you created in ACID Pro and, say, bring into Vegas and vice versa. Since both offer flexible options of exporting and rendering audio to be used in another app, the possibilities are many. Unless I'm misinterpreting, ACID does not exactly tighten up a loop that has an erratic beat. It leaves that part up to you to decide exactly where the downbeats and upbeats fall in a loop. I would highly recommend Sound Forge (or Sound Forge Studio, which is Sound Forge's less-powerful cousin) to help edit a loop like that. HTH, Iacobus
Subject:RE: AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions... Reply by: snicholshms Date:8/23/2002 12:02:56 AM ACID will allow you to "synch" different sounds to make one loop. You can record a piece of a video soundtrack and make that WAV track one. Then take another WAV file that you want to mix and make that track 2. You move them until they playback just the way you want and render out a new WAV file that incorporates both tracks into one WAV file. Take the new WAV file and put it in Vegas or Sound Forge 6.0 to make final tweaks on the overall volume, reverb, etc. ACID allows you to record guitars and other real insteruments on separate tracks and adjust their positions relative to each other to make musical sense (or nonsense). Download an ACID demo and play around with it. You will see how the separate tracks allow you to put sounds where you want them. You can record each sound separately and mix them to form a musical composition. ACID is great for doing voiceovers, too. Have fun, Steve
Subject:RE: AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions... Reply by: FuTz Date:8/23/2002 6:27:34 AM Thanks. I already bought it yesterday ! And it sounds great. I watched the "video scoring" tutorial and it's actually exactly what I was looking for. I also bought SoundForge Studio 6 for minor editing purposes. Think I'm gonna be busy for the next weeks! All of this at discount prices (separately, by the way; not the "199$" deal wich comes to $30 bucks more...for those of you who'd be interested) Thanks again!

Subject:AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions...

Posted by: FuTz

Date:8/21/2002 9:00:12 PM

I've been asking in the Vegas Forum but I'd like to have some input from here too...
Do any of you use Acid -a lot- with VV3? I'd like to get the APro4 but there seems to be a few bugs to fix. What I'd like would be to use an old MIDI beatbox I got for years and to create loops based on real sounds taken from video clips. I'd like to be able to create these loops and edit them after (i.e.: lenght etc... to "fit" the same loop in different projects). I'd also like to record (from guitar, bass, microphone, etc...)here and there.
The problem for me has been, until now, not being able to really synchronise, let's say, a few hammer hits (taken from a video clip) with a drumbeat on a music bed. Every time, there's a delay that comes up after a few seconds... If I get it ok, AcidPro would completely fix my problem, no? And also: Does Acid "straighten up" beats that are not exactly thight, I mean, put the peaks -automatically- where they should be?
Thanks for your help!

Subject:RE: AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions...

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/22/2002 11:32:18 AM

I would probably say you can't lose by having both apps. You'll basically have the best of both worlds with Vegas doing the multitracking and ACID Pro doing the looping.

The programs (I think) were meant to be interchangable. You could take a music bed that you created in ACID Pro and, say, bring into Vegas and vice versa. Since both offer flexible options of exporting and rendering audio to be used in another app, the possibilities are many.

Unless I'm misinterpreting, ACID does not exactly tighten up a loop that has an erratic beat. It leaves that part up to you to decide exactly where the downbeats and upbeats fall in a loop. I would highly recommend Sound Forge (or Sound Forge Studio, which is Sound Forge's less-powerful cousin) to help edit a loop like that.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions...

Reply by: snicholshms

Date:8/23/2002 12:02:56 AM

ACID will allow you to "synch" different sounds to make one loop.
You can record a piece of a video soundtrack and make that WAV track one.
Then take another WAV file that you want to mix and make that track 2.
You move them until they playback just the way you want and render out a new WAV file that incorporates both tracks into one WAV file.
Take the new WAV file and put it in Vegas or Sound Forge 6.0 to make final tweaks on the overall volume, reverb, etc.
ACID allows you to record guitars and other real insteruments on separate tracks and adjust their positions relative to each other to make musical sense (or nonsense). Download an ACID demo and play around with it. You will see how the separate tracks allow you to put sounds where you want them. You can record each sound separately and mix them to form a musical composition.
ACID is great for doing voiceovers, too.
Have fun,
Steve

Subject:RE: AcidPro4 + VideoVegas3: questions...

Reply by: FuTz

Date:8/23/2002 6:27:34 AM

Thanks. I already bought it yesterday ! And it sounds great. I watched the "video scoring" tutorial and it's actually exactly what I was looking for. I also bought SoundForge Studio 6 for minor editing purposes. Think I'm gonna be busy for the next weeks! All of this at discount prices (separately, by the way; not the "199$" deal wich comes to $30 bucks more...for those of you who'd be interested)
Thanks again!