Subject:AP 4.0, Midi help

Posted by: caltrip21

Date:9/9/2002 5:02:19 PM

I have a synth connected to my pc. I was curious how you send the banks, single sounds, etc. from the synth to the pc. My synth is capable of sending SYSEX (not exactly sure how that works). Basically I want to use my preset synth sounds via midi. If anyone has any information on what I need to do this, please let me know.

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:9/9/2002 5:38:25 PM

I'm no MIDI guru, but I believe that you cannot use the preset sounds in your hardware synth unless you record them via digital audio instead of MIDI. I could be wrong, of course.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: SonyNateM

Date:9/9/2002 5:45:50 PM

Using the preset sounds from your keyboard in a project really depends on your studio's setup. If both the computer and the keyboard are going to a mixing board, then to your monitors or recording source, then you can just use MIDI in ACID as you would in any other MIDI software, inserting patch changes where necessary, etc. If you wish to render down the entire project within the machine, you can still work similarly, but you will need to playback your project and record the audio output from your keyboard through your soundcard's line input onto a new audio track in ACID before rendering, or your external synth's audio will not be in your final render.

Hope this helps,
Nate

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: caltrip21

Date:9/9/2002 8:49:35 PM

Thanks for the info Nate. I'm now having problems recording. I'll tell you a little about my setup, it's pretty simple. I have a synth connected to midisport usb and acid 4.0 on a Compaq Presario. I can play and listen to presets on my synth headphones when recording midi into acid. However, like you said, you cannot render midi, and when I try to record the midi track to a new audio track, like you said to do, it does nothing. I'm not sure if it's my soundcard, which is the original soundcard in my pc, or what. If you could help me out once again I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Cal

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: TeeCee

Date:9/10/2002 10:13:43 AM

caltrip:
How do you have your keyboard connected to your PC? You do have the audio out of the keyboard somehow routed to the line in on your PC, right? I never record into Acid, but you may have to set the MIDI track and the new audio track both the solo. Have you ever recorded your synth's audio into Acid? Try that first, while playing your keyboard by hand.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: caltrip21

Date:9/10/2002 2:55:57 PM

My setup:
External synth midi in and out to midisport in and out. Midisport to usb on pc.
I have headphones connected to my synth. I can record midi from my synth in AP, I can also playback the midi track and hear it on my synth phones. But Nate said that I need to record that midi track to a new audio track. I try to record audio and only have one selection for recording "soundmax". That is also my only selection for recording in Control Panel. I hit record and I hear the midi track play (through my synth headphones) but it does not record anything. I have it on monitor, and no sound is showing up. I don't know how else to render that midi file to a wave or other. With just the midi track the Render As does not show up.

Got any ideas?

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: SonyNateM

Date:9/10/2002 3:55:02 PM

It sounds like you may not be recording audio into the PC. You need an actual audio cable running from the audio output(s) of your synth to the Line In on the back of your machine (usually an 1/8" stereo mini-plug). Depending on what type of outputs your synth has, you may need to pop into Radio Shack for an adapter. Once this is set up, you solo the MIDI track in your ACID project, then click Record, choose that you are going to record audio and select your sound card (SoundMax) as the recording device. Have the record starting position set to the beginning of the project, then click Start and let it go. ACID should send MIDI info out to the synth, which will play back the notes, through the audio cable and into your sound card, where it will be digitized for ACID. Afterwards, you should have your original MIDI track, and a new audio track that contains the recorded audio.

HTH,
Nate

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: TeeCee

Date:9/13/2002 9:42:12 PM

Nate:
You ever get fed up with trying to help and people don't tell you if they even tried to do what you said much less if it worked? I offer up advice hoping to also further my own knowledge. I mean if it does work, I learn from that as well. And you aren't paid to do it here. This is what you guys do to be nice.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: SonyNateM

Date:9/16/2002 11:54:00 AM

TeeCee

Not really, I spent years in technical support and associated positions in my past, so my level of patience with people who are having a hard time, or just need questions answered is pretty bulletproof at this point. Also, I am almost entirely self-educated when it comes to computers (the exception being a couple of programming courses in college), and much of what I have learned I did through asking questions of friends, coworkers, on newsgroups, forums, and the occasional technical chat room. Doing something incorrectly, and asking for help can be an integral part in the learning process. People were there for me when I needed guidance (and in many ways, still are). Now, it's my turn. :)

Nate

Subject:RE: AP 4.0, Midi help

Reply by: TeeCee

Date:9/17/2002 5:56:51 PM

My learning has been the same. It's not the questions I mind. I mean, why do I try to help? Because I want to and it helps me know what causes what for sure when my fix works for others. I learn from helping. It's the not hearing back that kills me. I want to know that I helped and that my solution works.

TeeCee