Subject:what software would i need?

Posted by: richard_novak

Date:9/17/2002 4:13:09 PM

hi all!

i've been compiling a movie in 3d, and i need some advise as far as what software would i need in order to:

1) insert human speech for the characters

2) insert sound effects that i've recorded or acuired

3) create music for the background

any info you could provide would be great!

thanks in advance!

ren

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: TeeCee

Date:9/17/2002 5:31:10 PM

Vegas Video 3.0 should handle all of that. Acid I believe will give you one video track, but Vegas Video should give you more than enough.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: richard_novak

Date:9/23/2002 6:39:03 AM

and vegas video can be used to create music as well? i really need software that i can use to take the music in my head, and put it out through speakers, without using any instruments, because i don't have any. :)

thanks!

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: salad

Date:9/23/2002 9:31:41 AM

You need VRMC (virtualrealitymusiccreation). I believe it costs about 2.5 million bucks.
Let me know also, if such a program exists! In the meantime I'll keep struggling with these old keyboards & synth modules.

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: MyST

Date:9/23/2002 9:57:15 AM

A cheaper alternative would be for you to hum into a mic to record the idea you have. Then, take that recording to a musician for you and the musician to build on.
Even if he could just put down the basics as a wave file, then you could build on that with loops in Acid.
There will be a fee for the musician, but it should fall short of 2.5 million.
Also, there is a program called "Band in a Box". But I've never tried it, so I can't comment too much on it. Even with this though, I believe you need to have a basic rhythm established.

HTH

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: TeeCee

Date:9/23/2002 12:41:10 PM

Cheaper still may be to visit an online music store and keep listening to samples until you hear one like what you're thinking about. The CD will probably be less than US$20. Use that as your background.

Seriously, there are many software packages for making music. You need to figure out how you can make music and what software works that way.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:9/23/2002 12:54:42 PM

I would actually recommend both Vegas and ACID Pro. Vegas for the combination video/audio work that you may do (like human speech for the characters) and ACID Pro for things like a background music bed.

The reason I would suggest ACID Pro would be because it's very easy even for the non-musician to compose a music bed. (Though, IMO, it's very helpful to have some knowledge of music theory.)

You could also import a video track in ACID Pro and score it and then export the music to Vegas for final composition with the video.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: richard_novak

Date:9/23/2002 5:47:10 PM

ah, now we're getting somewhere. see, i have a few different melodies in my head, they're kind of like techno megadeth... if that makes any sense. ans where i know a little music theory, i don't have any instrumments or recording devises and i figure that buying software once would be cheaper than all the instrumments.

so, vegas for the video work, and acid for the music. with acid pro, can you choose between some sore of pre-loaded instrumments and just plus in the sheetmusic? or is it still a thing where you have to use samples of other music?

thanks!

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: groovewerx

Date:9/23/2002 7:43:53 PM

your video capture card should have come a program for that.

does adobe premeire sound familiar?

Subject:RE: what software would i need?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:9/23/2002 10:50:02 PM

With ACID Pro, you basically can use "canned" loops from various sources, as well as your own that you can record. The main difference between ACID and other sampling programs is that a small chunk of data is added to a Loop, effectively "ACIDizing" the file so that it stretches properly at a given tempo and/or key.

(If you use an ACIDized loop in another program that doesn't identify the ACID-format loop, the program will just ignore the extra chunk of data and play the loop just like any other.)

There are other track types in addition to Loops, but Loop type tracks will probably be what you deal with most.

Once you have a Loop, you can basically arrange it in any way you want. An instance of the entire Loop or portion of the Loop playing back along the timeline is called an event. Typically, one single Loop track in an ACID project contains a whole series of events.

I say it's helpful to know a little music theory for a couple reasons. You can easily create a basic I IV V(7) I (e.g., C F G(7) C) chord progression just by inserting key changes along the timeline. The whole project will then change and stretch everything as necessary when the key changes.

Another technique that's more advanced but also requires some music theory knowledge is to use ACID like a drum sequencer/machine. With this technique, you can create your own custom rhythms and not have to rely on drum loops so much.

If you're very interested in knowing the exact details on ACID Pro 4.0's features, check out the ACID Pro 4.0 manual. You will need Adobe's free Acrobat Reader to read the manual. (You can check out the Vegas manual while you're there too.)

HTH,
Iacobus