Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's Posted by: LCS2002Music Date:9/26/2002 2:57:12 PM Soundforge says it supports files 4gb and larger but when I try to save an audio file that is 3 hours 53 minutes long it says "The File being rendered has exceeded the maximum size allowed for the selected format" I am trying to save the file in wave format. Can someone help me.
Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's Reply by: Sonic Date:9/26/2002 4:10:45 PM The .wav format itself (actually Microsoft RIFF), still has the 4GB limitation that neither Sound Forge nor any other app can do anything about. It is typically halved to 2GB in practice due to a signage assumption that was prevalent back when a 2GB file was a pipe dream. Sound Forge now lets you open, edit, record, etc. on very long files, but you still must save to a format that will allow those lengths like .w64 or .pca. W64 is basically an uncompressed 64-bit extension of RIFF that was never officially released by MS. PCA is our lossless compression format. You could also attempt to render to a lossy compression format if that suits your needs. J.
Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's Reply by: LCS2002Music Date:9/26/2002 4:58:47 PM After I save it to PCA am I able to then convert it MP3?
Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's One MOre Question Reply by: LCS2002Music Date:9/26/2002 5:04:37 PM I am recording 4 to 6 hours of music straight. Does sound forge allow me to save an MP3 of that length? I will also want to make cd's from this LONG file can I break it up and extract regions in wav files?
Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's Reply by: stusy Date:9/26/2002 5:20:33 PM I have 98SE. Can I still use the .wav64 option...?
Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's One MOre Question Reply by: Sonic Date:9/27/2002 12:30:21 PM As stated in the FAQs (http://www.sonicfoundry.com/support/SupportProduct.asp?FamilyID=30&Family=Vegas&TopicID=48&DetailID=1096) Under Windows 98, 98se, and ME, your drives can be formatted as FAT (File Allocation Table) or FAT32. The largest a single file can be on these operating systems is 4 GB. <snip> Under Windows 2000 and Windows XP the operator has the ability to format their drives as FAT, FAT32, or NTFS (New Technology File System). NTFS has no file size limitation other than the maximum amount your hard drive can carry. As far as mp3 limits, I don't really have an exact length since it's compression is dependent on the settings and the actual material, but several hours shouldn't be a problem in most cases. A pca file can be re-opened in Sound Forge 6.0 and rendered to mp3. An mp3 can be re-opened to extract regions, assuming you have enough disk space for Sound Forge 6.0 to create a decompressed proxy. Note that once a file is saved to mp3, you are stuck with any compression artifacts introduced by the encoder, so if disk space is not an issue, you should save a master copy to w64 or pca first. Is that everyone? J.
Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's One MOre Question Reply by: stusy Date:9/27/2002 1:31:17 PM Thank you. I will enable my .wav64 option then...have a goodun...!

Subject:Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's

Posted by: LCS2002Music

Date:9/26/2002 2:57:12 PM

Soundforge says it supports files 4gb and larger but when I try to save an audio file that is 3 hours 53 minutes long it says "The File being rendered has exceeded the maximum size allowed for the selected format" I am trying to save the file in wave format. Can someone help me.

Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's

Reply by: Sonic

Date:9/26/2002 4:10:45 PM

The .wav format itself (actually Microsoft RIFF), still has the 4GB limitation that neither Sound Forge nor any other app can do anything about. It is typically halved to 2GB in practice due to a signage assumption that was prevalent back when a 2GB file was a pipe dream.

Sound Forge now lets you open, edit, record, etc. on very long files, but you still must save to a format that will allow those lengths like .w64 or .pca.

W64 is basically an uncompressed 64-bit extension of RIFF that was never officially released by MS. PCA is our lossless compression format. You could also attempt to render to a lossy compression format if that suits your needs.

J.

Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's

Reply by: LCS2002Music

Date:9/26/2002 4:58:47 PM

After I save it to PCA am I able to then convert it MP3?

Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's One MOre Question

Reply by: LCS2002Music

Date:9/26/2002 5:04:37 PM

I am recording 4 to 6 hours of music straight. Does sound forge allow me to save an MP3 of that length? I will also want to make cd's from this LONG file can I break it up and extract regions in wav files?

Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's

Reply by: stusy

Date:9/26/2002 5:20:33 PM

I have 98SE. Can I still use the .wav64 option...?

Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's One MOre Question

Reply by: Sonic

Date:9/27/2002 12:30:21 PM

As stated in the FAQs (http://www.sonicfoundry.com/support/SupportProduct.asp?FamilyID=30&Family=Vegas&TopicID=48&DetailID=1096)

Under Windows 98, 98se, and ME, your drives can be formatted as FAT (File Allocation Table) or FAT32. The largest a single file can be on these operating systems is 4 GB. <snip>

Under Windows 2000 and Windows XP the operator has the ability to format their drives as FAT, FAT32, or NTFS (New Technology File System). NTFS has no file size limitation other than the maximum amount your hard drive can carry.

As far as mp3 limits, I don't really have an exact length since it's compression is dependent on the settings and the actual material, but several hours shouldn't be a problem in most cases.

A pca file can be re-opened in Sound Forge 6.0 and rendered to mp3.

An mp3 can be re-opened to extract regions, assuming you have enough disk space for Sound Forge 6.0 to create a decompressed proxy. Note that once a file is saved to mp3, you are stuck with any compression artifacts introduced by the encoder, so if disk space is not an issue, you should save a master copy to w64 or pca first.

Is that everyone?

J.

Subject:RE: Trouble Saving Files larger than 2gb's One MOre Question

Reply by: stusy

Date:9/27/2002 1:31:17 PM

Thank you. I will enable my .wav64 option then...have a goodun...!