compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround. -ACID Product Family

Subject:compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround. Posted by: astral_supreme Date:9/27/2002 7:11:11 AM Hello everyone. Please help me...I want to make a low budget hollywood film. I have a canon xL1s mini dv camcorder to shoot my film, and vegas video 3.0 for editing the scenes. I Have acid pro 4.0 for the sound. I shoot the film, upload to computer (firewire), edit in vv3.0 and do the 5.1 surround sound in acid. I wait for the ac3 encoder plug in from sofo that is underway...and encode everything to mpeg...etc and burn to dvd. I walk into hollywood studios where producers have huge pages of unread paper scripts on there desk and hand them my dvd and say hey...this is the movie I would like to make...will you fund me...check it out and let me no what you think. Sounds funny and unrealistic but I am young and it is safe to dream...... Ok, now for the questions: 1. Can I score mpeg2 (dvd) movies in acid 4.0? (if no: how about after ac3 plugin coming soon) If yes... 2. Assuming my soundtracks in acid 4.0 are fully encoded to surround (ac3 coming soon) Should I send the 5.1 sound to vegas 3.0 for scoring?...will vegas recognize this (plugin needed here for compatability?) and what would score better acid or vegas? 3. Should I just send the vegas and acid files seperately to third party dvd authoring software?...if so the 3rd party software will have to score my movie and burn to dvd and do menus chapters...does anyone know if dvd complete is capable? Thanks for your time, the Help, any advice, and the killer sonic foundry products making my dreams possible.
Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround. Reply by: Iacobus Date:9/27/2002 4:14:05 PM 1. Yes, but you will have to purchase the MainConcept MPEG plug-in separately. (You purchase it from within ACID.) 2. I don't know exactly about the plug-in. Scoring in either ACID or Vegas is probably a subjective thing. I would say both. It's easier to create a music bed in ACID but it's also easier to multitrack in Vegas. 3. You could certainly do that. I'm not familiar with DVD Complete, but I'd imagine both the standard and deluxe versions can do what you want. HTH, Iacobus
Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround. Reply by: vonhosen Date:9/27/2002 5:34:04 PM DVD Complete does not support AC-3 stereo audio let alone 5.1. ReelDVD by Sonic Solutions will allow the seperate import of MPEG-2 elementary video streams & 5.1 encoded AC-3 audio from external sources. ReelDVD has a built in AC-3 encoder for turning your audio to stereo AC-3 files but not 5.1. It does however allow the import of 5.1 as I said but it is not a feature that is advertised. http://www.sonic.com/products/reeldvd/
Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround. Reply by: astral_supreme Date:10/1/2002 12:27:39 PM thanks for the info. I have yet to buy a 3rd party dvd maker program but will check out reeldvd. I read the forums about dvd complete and I wonder if there will be a new version that supports the features I need, I have a dream that one day sonic foundry will create dvd software to compete with these others. A software product that uses acid 4.0 and vegas video 3.0 and menu/suptitle/closecaption/scene selection..etc. should definately be considered for creation.
Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround. Reply by: vonhosen Date:10/1/2002 1:49:42 PM Yes we all dream of that AC-3 license fees are a big stumbling block as far as audio encoding goes. I wait to see how much the Acid Pro 4.0 plug-in encoder is going to be.

Subject:compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround.

Date:9/27/2002 7:11:11 AM

Hello everyone. Please help me...I want to make a low budget hollywood film.
I have a canon xL1s mini dv camcorder to shoot my film, and vegas video 3.0 for editing the scenes. I Have acid pro 4.0 for the sound. I shoot the film, upload to computer (firewire), edit in vv3.0 and do the 5.1 surround sound in acid. I wait for the ac3 encoder plug in from sofo that is underway...and encode everything to mpeg...etc and burn to dvd. I walk into hollywood studios where producers have huge pages of unread paper scripts on there desk and hand them my dvd and say hey...this is the movie I would like to make...will you fund me...check it out and let me no what you think. Sounds funny and unrealistic but I am young and it is safe to dream......
Ok, now for the questions:

1. Can I score mpeg2 (dvd) movies in acid 4.0? (if no: how about after ac3 plugin coming soon) If yes...
2. Assuming my soundtracks in acid 4.0 are fully encoded to surround (ac3 coming soon) Should I send the 5.1 sound to vegas 3.0 for scoring?...will vegas recognize this (plugin needed here for compatability?) and what would score better acid or vegas?
3. Should I just send the vegas and acid files seperately to third party dvd authoring software?...if so the 3rd party software will have to score my movie and burn to dvd and do menus chapters...does anyone know if dvd complete is capable?

Thanks for your time, the Help, any advice, and the killer sonic foundry products making my dreams possible.

Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround.

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:9/27/2002 4:14:05 PM

1. Yes, but you will have to purchase the MainConcept MPEG plug-in separately. (You purchase it from within ACID.)
2. I don't know exactly about the plug-in. Scoring in either ACID or Vegas is probably a subjective thing. I would say both. It's easier to create a music bed in ACID but it's also easier to multitrack in Vegas.
3. You could certainly do that. I'm not familiar with DVD Complete, but I'd imagine both the standard and deluxe versions can do what you want.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround.

Reply by: vonhosen

Date:9/27/2002 5:34:04 PM

DVD Complete does not support AC-3 stereo audio let alone 5.1.

ReelDVD by Sonic Solutions will allow the seperate import of MPEG-2 elementary video streams & 5.1 encoded AC-3 audio from external sources. ReelDVD has a built in AC-3 encoder for turning your audio to stereo AC-3 files but not 5.1. It does however allow the import of 5.1 as I said but it is not a feature that is advertised.

http://www.sonic.com/products/reeldvd/

Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround.

Reply by: astral_supreme

Date:10/1/2002 12:27:39 PM

thanks for the info.

I have yet to buy a 3rd party dvd maker program but will check out reeldvd. I read the forums about dvd complete and I wonder if there will be a new version that supports the features I need,

I have a dream that one day sonic foundry will create dvd software to compete with these others.
A software product that uses acid 4.0 and vegas video 3.0 and menu/suptitle/closecaption/scene selection..etc. should definately be considered for creation.

Subject:RE: compatability theory.....and rising quesions 5.1 surround.

Reply by: vonhosen

Date:10/1/2002 1:49:42 PM

Yes we all dream of that

AC-3 license fees are a big stumbling block as far as audio encoding goes. I wait to see how much the Acid Pro 4.0 plug-in encoder is going to be.