Using SoundForge for 1950's effect... -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Using SoundForge for 1950's effect... Posted by: torchlight Date:9/11/2003 5:17:52 AM Hey y'all... Pulling an all nighter trying to get this video project done - the computer in the lab I'm using has SoundForge, and I'm thinking of using it to tweak the audio to give the project more punch. The clip is done in the style of a 1950's instructional video - all black and white, with Cinelook Film Damage added to make it look authentic. Problem is, the audio does not sound authentic. I only have 2 sources of audio - an instrumental music track and the voice of the "narrator." No other audio. What I would like to do is manipulate the audio in a way that is sounds like the video is actually being played on a 1950's film projector - you know what I'm talking about? The voice and music need to be... not as full, I guess - its hard for me to describe. I guess I'd just better hope somebody knows what I'm talking about and is in a helpful mood. =) Thanks in advance for any advice you may be able to provide! -t
Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect... Reply by: Chienworks Date:9/11/2003 7:16:42 AM EQ is probably your best bet. Have a large peak in the EQ curve in the 400Hz to 1KHz area and rapid falloff outside that range. You can play with the curve until you get the sound you like. Increasing the gain until you get a little bit of clipping might help too. Another thing to consider is to use systhesis to generate noise and mix a small amount of this in. I seem to recall those old 16mm instructional movies having a lot of high end (maybe 2 to 4KHz) hiss.
Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect... Reply by: mcgeedo Date:9/11/2003 9:44:16 AM torch and Chien, I did a similar thing on a music video. A girl was singing a WWII song (beautifully, I might add). I made the video b&w and used film effects. For the sound, I EQ'ed down everything below about 200 Hz (about -6 dB) and everything above 3000 Hz (about -8 to -10 dB). It sounded like a very old microphone; almost like a telephone. I didn't add any noise, though. I hated to degrade the girl's beautiful performance any more than I had to. If I had to, I would have added a bit of hiss (I think around 3 to 5 kHz), and a few clicks and pops. You might get a click/pop sample by recording the grooves between sings on an old vinyl LP. You do have a turntable on your stereo system, don't you :-)
Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect... Reply by: rraud Date:9/11/2003 3:05:00 PM Check out the iZotope free "Vinyl" plug-in. http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/vinyl/vinyl.html There are parameters you can adj. to possibly get your sound.
Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect... Reply by: MacMoney Date:9/12/2003 7:05:33 AM Yes Izotope! You beat me to it rraud. Ron Jones

Subject:Using SoundForge for 1950's effect...

Posted by: torchlight

Date:9/11/2003 5:17:52 AM

Hey y'all...

Pulling an all nighter trying to get this video project done - the computer in the lab I'm using has SoundForge, and I'm thinking of using it to tweak the audio to give the project more punch. The clip is done in the style of a 1950's instructional video - all black and white, with Cinelook Film Damage added to make it look authentic. Problem is, the audio does not sound authentic.

I only have 2 sources of audio - an instrumental music track and the voice of the "narrator." No other audio. What I would like to do is manipulate the audio in a way that is sounds like the video is actually being played on a 1950's film projector - you know what I'm talking about? The voice and music need to be... not as full, I guess - its hard for me to describe.

I guess I'd just better hope somebody knows what I'm talking about and is in a helpful mood. =) Thanks in advance for any advice you may be able to provide!

-t

Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect...

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:9/11/2003 7:16:42 AM

EQ is probably your best bet. Have a large peak in the EQ curve in the 400Hz to 1KHz area and rapid falloff outside that range. You can play with the curve until you get the sound you like. Increasing the gain until you get a little bit of clipping might help too.

Another thing to consider is to use systhesis to generate noise and mix a small amount of this in. I seem to recall those old 16mm instructional movies having a lot of high end (maybe 2 to 4KHz) hiss.

Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect...

Reply by: mcgeedo

Date:9/11/2003 9:44:16 AM

torch and Chien,

I did a similar thing on a music video. A girl was singing a WWII song (beautifully, I might add). I made the video b&w and used film effects. For the sound, I EQ'ed down everything below about 200 Hz (about -6 dB) and everything above 3000 Hz (about -8 to -10 dB). It sounded like a very old microphone; almost like a telephone. I didn't add any noise, though. I hated to degrade the girl's beautiful performance any more than I had to. If I had to, I would have added a bit of hiss (I think around 3 to 5 kHz), and a few clicks and pops. You might get a click/pop sample by recording the grooves between sings on an old vinyl LP. You do have a turntable on your stereo system, don't you :-)

Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect...

Reply by: rraud

Date:9/11/2003 3:05:00 PM

Check out the iZotope free "Vinyl" plug-in.
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/vinyl/vinyl.html
There are parameters you can adj. to possibly get your sound.

Subject:RE: Using SoundForge for 1950's effect...

Reply by: MacMoney

Date:9/12/2003 7:05:33 AM

Yes Izotope!
You beat me to it rraud.

Ron Jones