Yo Chienworks - - I'm Here ! Virtual Piano to SF7? -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Yo Chienworks - - I'm Here ! Virtual Piano to SF7? Posted by: Grazie Date:11/27/2003 3:34:55 AM Hiyah! . . . drifted in here from Vegas . . . . Okay, just got SF7. Is it possible to use the virtual piano keyboard to get my chords and stuff recorded into a track in SF7? . . .Or have I got it totally wrong? I've been reading the downloaded manual, but I'm a bit confused - to say the least. . I don't have a "physical" piano-type keyboard . . other than the QWERTY one I'm typing this on - yeah? Any takers? Best regards, Grazie
Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Reply by: Chienworks Date:11/28/2003 6:28:06 AM Grazie, are you talking about the little piano keyboard thingie window that SoundForge has built in? Oddly enough, SoundForge refuses to record this under any circumstances. However, if you launch any other audio recording application such as Vegas, Acid, or even Windows Sound Recorded, they'll be able to record the keyboard through the "mixed output" function of the sound card. Then you can open up this file in SoundForge after you're done recording.
Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!! Reply by: Grazie Date:12/1/2003 10:43:20 AM Yes - That thingie! Please enlighten moi on the - " . . .through the "mixed output" function of the sound card" . . . please make this a simple explanation . . . one brain cell here . . . Grazie
Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!! Reply by: Rednroll Date:12/1/2003 11:21:47 AM Let me try and explain this a little. The Virtual Piano within Sound Forge is nothing more than a Midi Controler, that you can click on keys with your mouse. If you have an external Keyboard that is connected via a midi connection on your PC, then this keyboard will send midi notes out to that device and play the sounds. Some sound cards have synthesizers built into them, meaning if you send them midi notes, it will trigger the sounds within the soundcard and you will hear the sound coming from your sound card. If your soundcard does not have a built in synthesizer then you are SOL, because there are no sounds to be triggered and you will hear nothing. So that's the first part you need to be sure of. If your sound card has an onboard synthesizer, then like I said it will play the sounds from the output of your sound card. So now if your soundcard also has a "Stereo Mix" as part of it's record options then you can select this as your input and be able to record it using another app like Chienworks described. To find out, goto the Windows mixer section. OPTIONS>PROPERTIES>CHECK RECORDING>OK. This will bring up the windows input recording selections. Place a Checke in the "Stereo Mix" selection, so now you are recording what you hear. Red
Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!! Reply by: Grazie Date:12/1/2003 11:47:25 AM Thanks for that . . I'll give it a go . . I'm determined to get on with this! Grazie
Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!! Reply by: Chienworks Date:12/1/2003 1:26:46 PM Yeah, what Red said. ;) All i'll add is that i've seen that particular mixer control named many strange and bizarre things. Depending on who wrote the drivers for your sound card, i've seen it called "PC Speaker", "What you hear", "Mixed Output", "Stereo Mix", etc. Don't let the name fool you. Also beware that some cheaper sound cards (and a few very expensive ones) don't have this option at all.

Subject:Yo Chienworks - - I'm Here ! Virtual Piano to SF7?

Posted by: Grazie

Date:11/27/2003 3:34:55 AM

Hiyah! . . . drifted in here from Vegas . . . .

Okay, just got SF7. Is it possible to use the virtual piano keyboard to get my chords and stuff recorded into a track in SF7? . . .Or have I got it totally wrong? I've been reading the downloaded manual, but I'm a bit confused - to say the least. . I don't have a "physical" piano-type keyboard . . other than the QWERTY one I'm typing this on - yeah?

Any takers?

Best regards,

Grazie

Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7?

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:11/28/2003 6:28:06 AM

Grazie, are you talking about the little piano keyboard thingie window that SoundForge has built in? Oddly enough, SoundForge refuses to record this under any circumstances. However, if you launch any other audio recording application such as Vegas, Acid, or even Windows Sound Recorded, they'll be able to record the keyboard through the "mixed output" function of the sound card. Then you can open up this file in SoundForge after you're done recording.

Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!!

Reply by: Grazie

Date:12/1/2003 10:43:20 AM

Yes - That thingie! Please enlighten moi on the - " . . .through the "mixed output" function of the sound card" . . . please make this a simple explanation . . . one brain cell here . . .

Grazie

Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!!

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:12/1/2003 11:21:47 AM

Let me try and explain this a little. The Virtual Piano within Sound Forge is nothing more than a Midi Controler, that you can click on keys with your mouse. If you have an external Keyboard that is connected via a midi connection on your PC, then this keyboard will send midi notes out to that device and play the sounds. Some sound cards have synthesizers built into them, meaning if you send them midi notes, it will trigger the sounds within the soundcard and you will hear the sound coming from your sound card. If your soundcard does not have a built in synthesizer then you are SOL, because there are no sounds to be triggered and you will hear nothing.

So that's the first part you need to be sure of. If your sound card has an onboard synthesizer, then like I said it will play the sounds from the output of your sound card. So now if your soundcard also has a "Stereo Mix" as part of it's record options then you can select this as your input and be able to record it using another app like Chienworks described. To find out, goto the Windows mixer section. OPTIONS>PROPERTIES>CHECK RECORDING>OK.
This will bring up the windows input recording selections. Place a Checke in the "Stereo Mix" selection, so now you are recording what you hear.

Red

Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!!

Reply by: Grazie

Date:12/1/2003 11:47:25 AM

Thanks for that . . I'll give it a go . . I'm determined to get on with this!

Grazie

Subject:RE: Total Newbie! Virtual Piano to SF7? Yo Kelly!!

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:12/1/2003 1:26:46 PM

Yeah, what Red said. ;)

All i'll add is that i've seen that particular mixer control named many strange and bizarre things. Depending on who wrote the drivers for your sound card, i've seen it called "PC Speaker", "What you hear", "Mixed Output", "Stereo Mix", etc. Don't let the name fool you. Also beware that some cheaper sound cards (and a few very expensive ones) don't have this option at all.