Subject:Big, Big MP3...

Posted by: DubaKam

Date:12/5/2003 2:37:05 AM

Hi!
My Soundforge can't open mp3 files if there are big!
For instance, I've got one 136Mo and it can't open it.
Is it normal?? Because I used to work on big files like that.
Thanxs

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: Sonic

Date:12/5/2003 9:51:27 AM

Which version? Which OS? NTFS or FAT32 drive?

J.

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: DubaKam

Date:12/8/2003 1:46:20 AM

I'm working with win2k with NTFS disk format and with soundforge7!

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:12/8/2003 8:10:52 AM

DubaKam,
Do you know where the .MP3 file was created? Was it created with Sound Forge? Did you download it from the web? Sound Forge doesn't have a problem opening large .MP3 files, but I have downloaded 3 or 4 full length CD's from the web and was unable to open them in Sound Forge, although I could open them in Windows Media player and Nero. I sent one of these files to Sony and they are aware of this issue with their .MP3 plugin being unable to open them. It seems to be a problem with the way the app that created the .MP3 writes the header information and Sony's .MP3 being able to handle this header information. If you know what app is creating this .MP3 then that would probably be a big help in fixing the problem.

Red

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:12/8/2003 7:53:17 PM

Maybe SF is trying to open it's temporary file as WAV, and the resultant file is bigger than WAV's 2GB limit ? From memory, there may be a setting which forces SF7 to use the W64 format, which was developed to get around the MS WAV restriction.

Or you could try one of the mp3-splitting apps to make smaller mp3 files. to do your editing on.

geoff

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: Sonic

Date:12/9/2003 7:44:56 AM

7.0 should not attempt to create a proxy file unless the pref "Always proxy compressed formats" (introduced in 7.0a) is checked. Even so, proxies are not bound to the 2GB .wav limitation.

You might try checking the general pref "Ignore FACT chunk", which is a potential workaround for what Red was getting at.

Perhaps you could elaborate a little on "can't open". Is there an error message? Does the file partially open? What exactly is happening?

J.

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: DubaKam

Date:12/10/2003 7:12:21 AM

Thanxs all of you guys!
to rednroll: so you've got the same pb as me : it's downloaded from Internet and I don't know which soft was used to create it.
to Geoff & Sonic: I tried to change some options but I get the same error message :
the file format plugin for the specified format was not properly initialized
details : The file D:\Soulseek\Muzic\Rolling stones 1975 Los angeles -Danke lucky (75-07-13 LA Inglewood) LA Friday '75 (sb)_ALBW.mp3 could not be opened.

So I can listen to it with WMP, but I can't edit it...
Thanxs anyway...

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: Sonic

Date:12/10/2003 8:45:05 AM

From that error message, it sounds like the file is not being recognized as mp3 and another catch-all format (like QuickTime) is trying to open it.

When you select the file in the Open dialog or Media Explorer (just select, not open), does Sound Forge recognize it as an mp3 in the properties area or does it come up "Unknown" or something else?

Two long shots (and pretty long at that):
1) install QuickTime 5.02 or greater with all authoring components
2) try changing the extension to .wav

J.

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: DubaKam

Date:12/11/2003 3:37:54 AM

In fact, it come up nothing.

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:12/11/2003 7:21:11 AM

I've tried everything on my file, even the ignore fact chunk option. Can't open it. I keep getting "An error occured during the operation" "The file is an unsupported format." If I right click/properties in Windows XP it gives me all the attributes that it is a .MP3 file, stereo,44.1khz sample rate 192kbs bitrate....etc

Looks Like the work around would be to playback in WMP and record in Sound Forge, then saveas a .MP3

Subject:RE: Big, Big MP3...

Reply by: MJhig

Date:12/11/2003 7:30:40 AM

Does your burning software recognize it? If so you could create an image with it converted to *.cda.

MJ

Subject:At least!!!....

Reply by: DubaKam

Date:12/12/2003 12:59:21 AM

Hi everybody!
I found the solution:
I used a transcoder, so I transcode my file in ogg format, and after in mp3 format.
It was worked fine!!
The problem was the file itself, when it was created, the format was bastard one!!
So thanxs all and see U soon
DubaKam,
from Lyon, France

Subject:RE: At least!!!....

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:12/12/2003 7:38:52 AM

"If so you could create an image with it converted to *.cda."

Yep, we sure could do that, or I could also start from scratch recreate,record,mix, master than save as an .mp3 myself. Or maybe someone could identify why Sony's .mp3 plugin doesn't recognize the file yet while every other app does and fix that problem before jumping through unnecessary hoops.

Subject:RE: At least!!!....

Reply by: MJhig

Date:12/12/2003 3:44:09 PM

Agreed, my point was I would look for a conversion work-around rather than recording real-time;

>>>>>Looks Like the work around would be to playback in WMP and record in Sound Forge, then saveas a .MP3<<<<<

MJ