WMV9 rendering consistently produces low volume.

craftech wrote on 4/20/2007, 9:06 AM
I have lived with this for several years, but I still don't understand why no matter what settings I have tried my Windows Media 9 renderings produce audio at a considerable lower volume than the original.

If any of you have a workaround or have found better settings for the audio please share them with me. I would (as always) really appreciate the help.

John

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craftech wrote on 4/20/2007, 11:18 AM
Anyone???

John
John_Cline wrote on 4/20/2007, 7:59 PM
How are you judging this? By listening to it in a .wmv media player of some sort, or have you brought the .wmv file back into Vegas and noticed or measured a lower audio volume?

John
dsf wrote on 4/20/2007, 9:30 PM
>>>"no matter what settings I have tried my Windows Media 9 renderings"

...Media 9 Rendering Settings? You can only render a Vegas project in Vegas. I presume you mean the audio settings in WM9.

First, try it in other players, Realplayer, Power DVD, whatever.

This really sounds like a problem with Media Player. Upgrade to MP11. If it is a Vegas screwup, have you set your audio timelines to max, the audio bus bars to max, the overall audio output (beside the video screen) to max?
craftech wrote on 4/21/2007, 2:35 AM
How are you judging this? By listening to it in a .wmv media player of some sort, or have you brought the .wmv file back into Vegas and noticed or measured a lower audio volume?
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Listening to it in Windows Media Player 9. It sounds lower than when I play it from the timeline.

John
craftech wrote on 4/21/2007, 3:36 AM
I presume you mean the audio settings in WM9
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Yes
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First, try it in other players
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VLC Media Player - SAME
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have you set your audio timelines to max, the audio bus bars to max, the overall audio output (beside the video screen) to max?
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If you mean inserting an audio envelope and jacking it up to max? - No

If you mean setting the Master to clipping levels? - No

Don't understand why the volume should sound lower in WMP after rendering than when played from the timeline.

John
Chienworks wrote on 4/21/2007, 4:58 AM
OK, let's the the obvious and dumb question out of the way ... is the volume control in media player all the way up? In order for the playback in media player to be the same volume as what you hear in Vegas, media player's volume must be at 100%.
dsf wrote on 4/21/2007, 11:05 PM
>>>”Don't understand why the volume should sound lower in WMP after rendering than when played from the timeline.”

Neither do I: one of the vicissitudes of computers and life in general.

To hell with media player: When you make the DVD (presuming that's what the end product is) is it okay, or not? If there's a screw-up why not just boost the volume at some point along the line? Certainly you don’t want to push it to clipping… You could render the sound only and then work with it in Sound Forge, Acid , or Vegas for that matter, to boost the volume, without having to re-render the video. Making the DVD, just replace the audio track with your juiced-up sound level mp3/AC3/Wav, whatever. Clearly an inelegant solution, but if you have a project and a deadline...and it works?
craftech wrote on 4/22/2007, 5:47 AM
OK, let's the the obvious and dumb question out of the way ... is the volume control in media player all the way up? In order for the playback in media player to be the same volume as what you hear in Vegas, media player's volume must be at 100%.
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Don't both media player and Vegas use the sound card volume control setting for playback?

John
craftech wrote on 4/22/2007, 5:51 AM
To hell with media player: When you make the DVD (presuming that's what the end product is) is it okay, or not?
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I was talking about a WMV9 file for internet usage. DVDs and tapes come out at the same audio level as the timeline. For some reason, when rendered to wmv9 they don't.

John
dsf wrote on 4/23/2007, 11:46 PM
>>>craftech 4/22/2007 6:51:04 AM: >>>"...a WMV9 file for internet usage."

Sorry. Maybe one day i'll learn to read.

But i still don't understand why you can't use the obvious workaround and just boost the sound level before rendering. I have driven nails with wrenches and used dinner forks for screwdrivers: disgracefully inelegant (and only when no one was looking of course) but it worked.
Chienworks wrote on 4/24/2007, 4:07 AM
Media Player has it's own volume control separate from those for the sound card.
John_Cline wrote on 4/24/2007, 8:09 AM
Have you tried dropping the WMV9 file on the timeline in Vegas and comparing levels to the file from which you made the WMV9? This would take Windows Media Player out of the equation.

John