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Subject:chase sync
Posted by: green
Date:12/17/1999 9:21:00 PM



Hello!

Can anyone tell me whether Acid (and which version) can
chase sync to Midi clock (not MTC)?

Thanking in Advance

Antonio

Subject:Re: chase sync
Reply by: pwppch
Date:12/17/1999 10:51:00 PM

None - and it never will. Lots of technical reasons, but basically
ACID needs to know its tempo information in advance. Part of its
magic in loop processing.

Peter


Antonio Pedro Farinha wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Can anyone tell me whether Acid (and which version) can
>>chase sync to Midi clock (not MTC)?
>>
>> Thanking in Advance
>>
>> Antonio

Subject:Re: chase sync
Reply by: green
Date:12/18/1999 1:48:00 PM


Peter Haller wrote:
>>None - and it never will. Lots of technical reasons, but basically
>>ACID needs to know its tempo information in advance. Part of its
>>magic in loop processing.
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>

Hello Peter, and once again thank you for your answer,

This is getting better and better, what I believed to be
relatively simple it´s getting more complicated, obviously not
everyone can be a digital audio expert and also obviously there has
to be a starting point for those who are not, having said that and
bearing in mind that is this "chase sync" issue that is preventing me
from buying ACID Pro and/or Vegas I would kindly ask you if there are
any internal or ext. devices that are able to convert Midi clock to
Midi timecode? and would that solve one of my problems
(syncronicity to a live mixing (dj) session)

Thanking you again

Antonio


>>Antonio Pedro Farinha wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me whether Acid (and which version) can
>>>>chase sync to Midi clock (not MTC)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanking in Advance
>>>>
>>>> Antonio

Subject:Re: chase sync
Reply by: pwppch
Date:12/18/1999 9:13:00 PM

I am not aware of any hardware converter between MIDI Clock to MTC. I
am sure there are such things, but they would be limited at best in
there usefullness as they would be unable to reproduce tempo based
information, which is one of the primary functions of MIDI Clock.

This RED device sounds like a converter already. It is dependent on
the input of an analog signal to be converted to a MIDI Clock. The
point behind this device is to sync to groove boxes or drum machines
in real time. Since the tempo can change in realtime, the slaved
devices must also be able to chase to tempo changes.

Converting this boxes MIDI clock to MTC would solve little and not
provide a workable solution to what you are trying to do.

I think that your application of ACID or Vegas is just not what
either application was intended for. You are trying to use them as
performance tools. They are not performance tools. The very nature of
this RED box - as you have described it - is real time performance
change. ACID and Vegas cannot be slaved to do this.

Q: Do you have a web site for this RED box thing?

Peter




Antonio Pedro Farinha wrote:
>>
>>Peter Haller wrote:
>>>>None - and it never will. Lots of technical reasons, but
basically
>>>>ACID needs to know its tempo information in advance. Part of its
>>>>magic in loop processing.
>>>>
>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Hello Peter, and once again thank you for your answer,
>>
>> This is getting better and better, what I believed to be
>>relatively simple it´s getting more complicated, obviously not
>>everyone can be a digital audio expert and also obviously there has
>>to be a starting point for those who are not, having said that and
>>bearing in mind that is this "chase sync" issue that is preventing
me
>>from buying ACID Pro and/or Vegas I would kindly ask you if there
are
>>any internal or ext. devices that are able to convert Midi clock to
>>Midi timecode? and would that solve one of my problems
>>(syncronicity to a live mixing (dj) session)
>>
>> Thanking you again
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>>>>Antonio Pedro Farinha wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me whether Acid (and which version) can
>>>>>>chase sync to Midi clock (not MTC)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanking in Advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio

Subject:Re: chase sync
Reply by: green
Date:12/19/1999 8:02:00 AM


Peter Haller wrote:
>>I am not aware of any hardware converter between MIDI Clock to MTC.
I
>>am sure there are such things, but they would be limited at best in
>>there usefullness as they would be unable to reproduce tempo based
>>information, which is one of the primary functions of MIDI Clock.
>>
>>This RED device sounds like a converter already. It is dependent on
>>the input of an analog signal to be converted to a MIDI Clock. The
>>point behind this device is to sync to groove boxes or drum
machines
>>in real time. Since the tempo can change in realtime, the slaved
>>devices must also be able to chase to tempo changes.
>>
>>Converting this boxes MIDI clock to MTC would solve little and not
>>provide a workable solution to what you are trying to do.
>>
>>I think that your application of ACID or Vegas is just not what
>>either application was intended for. You are trying to use them as
>>performance tools. They are not performance tools. The very nature
of
>>this RED box - as you have described it - is real time performance
>>change. ACID and Vegas cannot be slaved to do this.
>>
>>Q: Do you have a web site for this RED box thing?
>>
>>Peter
>>


Hello Peter and thank you, once again you've been most helpful.

A: Yes they do, but not immensely helpful I'm afraid, just business
really..." last minute correction , yes and its´s all there (it's
just that one doesn't see all that clearly at 5,6 or 7 in the morning
(GMT)...)"

Your answer helped me to put things in perspective particularly
about ACID since it is almost certain that I'm going to purchase
Vegas for producing audio based web content.
May I take this opportunity to wish you a warm Christmas and a
wicked Y2K!

All the best

Antonio




>>
>>Antonio Pedro Farinha wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Peter Haller wrote:
>>>>>>None - and it never will. Lots of technical reasons, but
>>basically
>>>>>>ACID needs to know its tempo information in advance. Part of
its
>>>>>>magic in loop processing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Peter, and once again thank you for your answer,
>>>>
>>>> This is getting better and better, what I believed to be
>>>>relatively simple it´s getting more complicated, obviously not
>>>>everyone can be a digital audio expert and also obviously there
has
>>>>to be a starting point for those who are not, having said that
and
>>>>bearing in mind that is this "chase sync" issue that is
preventing
>>me
>>>>from buying ACID Pro and/or Vegas I would kindly ask you if there
>>are
>>>>any internal or ext. devices that are able to convert Midi clock
to
>>>>Midi timecode? and would that solve one of my problems
>>>>(syncronicity to a live mixing (dj) session)
>>>>
>>>> Thanking you again
>>>>
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Antonio Pedro Farinha wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me whether Acid (and which version) can
>>>>>>>>chase sync to Midi clock (not MTC)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanking in Advance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antonio

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