Removing Silence at Beginning and End of a File -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Removing Silence at Beginning and End of a File Posted by: Jalton812 Date:4/9/2008 6:30:29 PM I just bought SFAS 9, and I like to crossfade or boxcar certain tracks together when making a CD. Previously, I had no problem with this in version 8, but in v9 I retain silence roughly 0.00.028 in length at the beginning and end of my files. I saw something on this from an earlier post, but learned nothing I didn't already know. I am editing WAV files, and saving as MP3. It's when I save to the latter that the silence gets added. Is this some default setting for SFAS 9? I've looked extensively but haven't seen anything about it being a setting (tried the pre/post roll settings). Is it a setting, or have I just wasted a lot of money for something I now can't use? Thanks! Message last edited on4/9/2008 6:41:46 PM byJalton812.
Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of Reply by: Chienworks Date:4/9/2008 7:42:55 PM It's part of the official MP3 specification. All versions of Sound Forge, Vegas, and ACID have always added the silence to the head and tail of MP3 files and have never had any way to avoid it. If you're burning audio CDs then you should be saving as .wav instead of .mp3. Then you won't have the problem at all.
Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of Reply by: Jalton812 Date:4/9/2008 8:45:19 PM I find that very interesting, because I've been using different versions of SF for 6-7 years, and have never had this problem before. Although, I am trying to do it with now mp3's. So how is it -if this is official mp3 spec- that if I rip music from a CD (say, Dark Side of the Moon), then burn it back onto a CD as an mp3, I don't get the tiny gap between songs when I play it back? This is going to be a major hassle having to go through and create a huge mp3 file, just to get my CD's the way I want them.... Regions galore. Thanks for the response.
Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of Reply by: Chienworks Date:4/9/2008 9:15:20 PM Apparently you didn't have this problem before because you weren't using the MP3 format before. Don't use it now and you'll be fine.
Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of Reply by: rraud Date:4/10/2008 9:56:49 AM As I recall, encoding an MP3 inserts a short gap only at the head & tail of a single file, making unusable for loops. That said, WinLAME has a no-gap feature for continuous CDs. I don't deal much with this kind of work much, maybe Chien or Kenny can elaborate.

Subject:Removing Silence at Beginning and End of a File

Posted by: Jalton812

Date:4/9/2008 6:30:29 PM

I just bought SFAS 9, and I like to crossfade or boxcar certain tracks together when making a CD.

Previously, I had no problem with this in version 8, but in v9 I retain silence roughly 0.00.028 in length at the beginning and end of my files. I saw something on this from an earlier post, but learned nothing I didn't already know.

I am editing WAV files, and saving as MP3. It's when I save to the latter that the silence gets added. Is this some default setting for SFAS 9? I've looked extensively but haven't seen anything about it being a setting (tried the pre/post roll settings).

Is it a setting, or have I just wasted a lot of money for something I now can't use?

Thanks!

Message last edited on4/9/2008 6:41:46 PM byJalton812.

Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:4/9/2008 7:42:55 PM

It's part of the official MP3 specification. All versions of Sound Forge, Vegas, and ACID have always added the silence to the head and tail of MP3 files and have never had any way to avoid it.

If you're burning audio CDs then you should be saving as .wav instead of .mp3. Then you won't have the problem at all.

Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of

Reply by: Jalton812

Date:4/9/2008 8:45:19 PM

I find that very interesting, because I've been using different versions of SF for 6-7 years, and have never had this problem before. Although, I am trying to do it with now mp3's.

So how is it -if this is official mp3 spec- that if I rip music from a CD (say, Dark Side of the Moon), then burn it back onto a CD as an mp3, I don't get the tiny gap between songs when I play it back?

This is going to be a major hassle having to go through and create a huge mp3 file, just to get my CD's the way I want them.... Regions galore.

Thanks for the response.

Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:4/9/2008 9:15:20 PM

Apparently you didn't have this problem before because you weren't using the MP3 format before. Don't use it now and you'll be fine.

Subject:RE: Removing Silence at Beginning and End of

Reply by: rraud

Date:4/10/2008 9:56:49 AM

As I recall, encoding an MP3 inserts a short gap only at the head & tail of a single file, making unusable for loops.
That said, WinLAME has a no-gap feature for continuous CDs.
I don't deal much with this kind of work much, maybe Chien or Kenny can elaborate.