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Subject:Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Posted by: Maruuk
Date:7/6/2001 8:04:47 PM
Acid 3.0 has huge dropouts, pops, crackles and my new audio tracks lose sync with the basic track after a while upon playback (very cute). I've clicked off the "sync to beat" (or whatever it says) button on my new tracks as the FAQ recommends so it's not that. This may be because my wimpy Celeron simply can't handle the demands--anybody got a clue? I'm using a Roland Edirol USB audio interface and I've heard that tasks the processor more than a PCI card. Do I just need to go PIII/Athlon? |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:7/6/2001 10:43:56 PM
Hello, Try raising your buffer in options>audio to about .75 to 1.0, That should do it for you. See ya |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/6/2001 11:38:13 PM
Thanks, Rockit but I tried that, no effect. I really think Celerons are doorstops when it comes to audio. The 4 min. track I'm trying to sync to was just rendered out in toto--Beatmapper can't figure it out so I just left it alone. Is there a chance Acid will lock to it better if it's Beatmapped? I'm just overdubbing guitars and vocals so I don't need the bar grid from Beatmap but maybe Acid demands that to lock tracks--heck if I know. Another thing is, maybe in Acid you can only overdub in very short, loop-like segments or it starts to drift sync-wise--that's certainly what happens to my tracks after about 2 minutes. Anybody got any other ideas? maybe SF should clarify that Acid can't be used as a regular audio recorder--just as a short loop generator. |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:7/7/2001 9:07:44 AM
Hello again, If you don't beatmap the track it acts as a one shot and wont sync to the song, deffinately beatmap it. See ya |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: gbat
Date:7/7/2001 11:37:04 AM
I'm not so sure it's the cele. I've used an Edirol UA-100 for years with a Pent.2, 350 cpu, 256 MB 100 RAM, slow hard drive. No problems. Have you done the optimizations at Audioforums.com? It sure helped my rig. |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/7/2001 12:22:58 PM
Rockit--Thanks again! Are you saying I need to Beatmap each of the incoming overdub tracks (vocals, guitars)or just the basic track, which was just rendered out as a long one-shot? All multitrack digital audio recorders hold sync for all tracks in a project no matter what--is Acid violating this basic rule? If I just figure out how to Beatmap my basic track will all subsequent overdubs not drift against it, or do ALL tracks need to be Beatmapped just to hold basic multitrack sync integrity? While I appreciate what Beatmapping can do for you, Acid seems to have really dropped the ball here to not allow use as a simple multitrack recorder without a lot of sync hassle. Auto-sync is what the market has become accustomed to from a lot of inexpensive multi-track products, and to throw us a bunch of non-standard curves in Acid is a huge waste of time. gbat--Thanks for the tip, I'll get over there and start tweaking! |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:7/7/2001 3:53:20 PM
Hello again, To bring up the beatmapper. With the track in the track view, double click on the colored icon for the track you want to edit, and it will bring up track properties for that track. in there you should see a beatmapper button, you can also adjust the properties in there just like you used to in version 2. But check that out and see if that helps you See ya |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/7/2001 5:41:11 PM
Rockit--I can bring up that screen, but it just gives me options to characterize the existing one-shot ("one-shot", "beatmapped", etc.) it doesn't actually DO anything. I had to copy the file over to another track where it finally gives me the automatic option to Beatmap the new track. Why they don't just give you a button to Beatmap an existing track is beyond me. Anyway, did all that and it does solve the sync problem--even an old guitar track that drifted badly against the original, non-Beatmapped track is locked into the new Batmapped track. Cool. However, after doing EVERYTHING in the system tweak dept. that's possible to do to optimize for audio, I still get intermittent horrible dropouts and pops and zaps. I get 3-5 of 'em every playback (4 min.)--this really sucks! Gotta be the POS Celeron. |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:7/7/2001 6:50:47 PM
Celeron's only run at 66MHz front side bus as opposed to a PIII which runs at 100 - 133 MHz FSB. But that's not the only possible bottleneck, You should also try to get your hard drives running as quickly as possible. If you could give me some info about your BIOS and type of hard drive you have, I might be able to give you some tips to optimize your system to get every bit of speed you can get out of it.Also try to give me the RPM of your hard drive and if it's ata33 or ata66. See ya |
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Subject:RE: Should I pitch my Celeron 600 Vaio into the ocean?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/8/2001 2:01:41 AM
Thanks, Rockit! I'm defragging both my hard drives tonight. Although the program is on my stock ATA66 5200rpm 15 gig Sony drive, I try to put all my content on my Western Digital ATA100 30 gig 7200rpm drive. Maybe the defragging will help. I heard the Celerons also have a smaller L2 cache (256k?) than a real Pentium. They actually perform pretty well in the basic data crunching benchmarks, but they get slaughtered in the A/V tasks. |