Subject:recording sound from the Internet

Posted by: rervin55

Date:5/20/2010 6:39:17 PM

I am new with Sound Forge 9. Can I use it to record sounds from the Internet such as Youtube and the like. I have searched the help files but don't seem to be able to find out how to set this up.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:5/20/2010 8:20:39 PM

Depends on your computer and OS.
Older computers, record "What You Hear" from the soundcard mixer.

Newer ones, including many Vista machines, don't allow this. You can run a cable from line out to line in and record in some instances, or use Virtual Audio Cable software to do it internally.

If you can open the url in Winamp, you may be able to use the disc writer plugin.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: rraud

Date:5/21/2010 7:52:29 AM

As MV stated you can record the "Stereo Out" aka,"What You Hear" on some XPs and Vista PCs, I don't know about Win7. Depends on the soundcard and the PC.
In any case, if your PC has the capability, here are instructions from a few months ago.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=3&MessageID=698639

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: Robert P

Date:5/21/2010 6:37:18 PM

"..Newer ones, including many Vista machines, don't allow this..."


Yet another reason for me to not go to Vista or 7.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: RCourtney

Date:5/21/2010 7:57:12 PM

If using Firefox browser you can locate the cache file after viewing the Youtube completely. Rename it and move it to a work folder. It will be a H264 format but
VLC from Videolan.org can convert the audio to a WAV file that you can open in Sound Forge.

You can get detailed info by Googling "youtube cache" and looking at the VLC
website.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:5/21/2010 8:32:51 PM

Yet another reason for me to not go to Vista or 7.

No, another reason to go with another notebook manufacturer.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:5/21/2010 8:34:19 PM

RCourtney,

Have you checked this behavior recently?

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: RCourtney

Date:5/22/2010 8:21:49 PM

Firefox 3.5.9
VLC 1.0.3 Goldeneye
Windows 7 Starter and XP Pro SP3

XP - Local Settings folder may be hidden so use CMD and CD to folder higher then
ATTRIB "Local Settings" -h

If you can't get it to work IM me.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: john_dennis

Date:5/27/2010 5:44:54 PM

If you can record it internally or with a line in / line out connection, it will certainly be easier. If all else fails, there is a lot of discussion of methods that you might use to download the file from youtube here:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=678752

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: brighterside

Date:6/9/2010 11:27:39 AM

"..Newer ones, including many Vista machines, don't allow this..."

Yet another reason for me to not go to Vista or 7.

I'm not so sure about that. I have a Vista machine that, yes, initially was unable to record the output to the speakers, but was eventually able to do it.

If I remember it was not obvious, but the function is there. I have no idea about Win 7 but I suspect it may be the same.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: rervin55

Date:6/18/2010 5:49:45 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions. I would really like to be able to record the sound from my sound card speakers without the use of patch cords. Maybe that is too much to ask.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: Ivan Lietaert

Date:6/19/2010 12:26:01 AM

You could buy a soundcard which supports 'what you hear' recording.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: brighterside

Date:6/22/2010 9:58:43 AM

I would really like to be able to record the sound from my sound card speakers without the use of patch cords. Maybe that is too much to ask.

Try this:
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/01/15/how-to-enable-wave-out-recording-in-vista/

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: R0cky

Date:6/25/2010 6:53:20 AM

It is generally not an xp vs. vista vs. win7 issue but the design of the soundcard and/or its driver that determines if you can do this natively.

You can download from youtube (or other sites) easily (no searching for temp files) using firefox and the "download helper" extension. There are several extensions that do it but I like this one for ease of use and not trying to download everything on the page.

Also, virtual audio cable works well - it is what I use.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: brighterside

Date:6/25/2010 3:46:15 PM

It is generally not an xp vs. vista vs. win7 issue but the design of the soundcard and/or its driver that determines if you can do this natively.

That you can do it ... it is built in to Vista and Win 7 .. BUT IT IS NOT OBVIOUS (Microsoft has 'hidden' the function) .. so that *most* folks, when they try, assume that it is not possible .. or if it is you need some special program/card/cable.

See the link I posted above .. it works.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: R0cky

Date:6/28/2010 8:37:44 AM

Even if you reveal the devices in vista or win7 as that link describes, not all sound cards (or chips integrated onto the motherboard) can do it. And then only if their driver supports it. I think most of the cheap integrated sound chips can, but many or most high end professional sound interfaces may not.

E.g. my echo layla cannot but the realtek chip on board can.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:6/28/2010 10:21:33 AM

brighterside,

bastinado is 100% correct.

Many sound card drivers from different manufacturers do not support this. My Sony notebook with Realtek HD Audio is one of them, and I have tried several driver versions.

Because it works for your particular setup, it is natural to think it will work for everyone. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: brighterside

Date:6/28/2010 9:15:06 PM

Ok .. I stand corrected ... but, since you didn't specifically say, I must ask .. have you tried activiating the function as my link suggests?

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:6/29/2010 9:15:45 AM

I've answered that question before.

To be perfectly clear, the answer is, "Yes, I've tried it many times, using several driver versions, long before you posted your "solution." and the results were always that the "Wave Out" option was either not present, or was grayed out."

You know, it is just a bit disingenuous for you to keep promoting your solution over and over as being right for every one else, in the face of overwhelming reports to the contrary. It's tantamount to saying you don't believe us, and I'm uncomfortable with that posture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtjjagaqF8Q

You've provided a suggestion that works for some users. You've now been told six times that it does not work for every one, by three people who have a combined experience of twenty-five years on this forum. Can you let that be enough?

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: brighterside

Date:6/29/2010 7:45:37 PM

I've answered that question before.

To be perfectly clear, the answer is, "Yes, I've tried it many times, using several driver versions, long before you posted your "solution." and the results were always that the "Wave Out" option was either not present, or was grayed out."

You know, it is just a bit disingenuous for you to keep promoting your solution over and over as being right for every one else, in the face of overwhelming reports to the contrary. It's tantamount to saying you don't believe us, and I'm uncomfortable with that posture.


You may have answered that question before .. but what makes you think that I've read it? I'm new to this particular forum. Not everyone has been here for years. You have not (that I remember) mentioned it since I posted that "solution". Since my "solution" was (to me) ignored .. I (trying to be helpful) repeated it.

A simple "Yes, I know about that. I've tried it. It doesn't work for me." would be all that is needed, but no one said that (till now)

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:6/29/2010 8:40:22 PM

A simple "Yes, I know about that. I've tried it. It doesn't work for me." would be all that is needed, but no one said that (till now)

That statement is absolute proof that you did not even bother to read the thread that rraud thoughtfully linked to in his response (2nd from top). And you have still not read it.

If you had read it, you would have been done with this discussion eight posts up; that is regardless of whether you actually understand or choose to believe bastinado's answers to you in this thread, or mine.

BTW, I hope the OP benefits from your link. Anything beyond that would seem self-serving, wouldn't it?

;?)

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: joejon

Date:6/30/2010 6:35:20 PM

I have Win7 and a Auzentech Prelude sound card. I record from the internet a lot. I choose "What U Hear", select Record in Sound Forge and that's it. When I want to record from a mic I switch it to that setting. I'm sure other sound cards will do this. I have a Creative Labs SoundBlaster on my old computer that also works. It's not so much the operating system but the sound card.

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: musicvid10

Date:6/30/2010 11:00:37 PM

Success!

After reading the lengthy thread linked below, I decided to hunt down some much older Vista drivers for Realtek HD Audio on my Sony notebook. Driver versions R1.54 through R1.67 appear to support the "Stereo Mix" function (it is still hidden). I found them at Softpedia.

It "may"just work on your Sony notebook, too. Be sure to create a restore point first just to be safe. No promises, ymmv.

Here is a link to the full thread for those "truly" interested in the experiences of owners of various brands of Vista computers and sound interfaces.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowspro-audiodevelopment/thread/e725bb7c-607c-410a-a495-9c92987a34c4

Subject:RE: recording sound from the Internet

Reply by: Wilsden Tuba

Date:12/18/2010 8:26:10 AM

Have just purchased SFAS 10 and encountered the same problem - Windows 7 (32 bit) and Soundblaster Audigy 4.
Enabling 'What You Hear' via 'Control Panel > Sound > Recording' sorted the problem.
Good luck.