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PeterDuke wrote on 3/29/2012, 7:20 PM
I couldn't make it work. A sidecar .sfl with markers is produced, but no markers in DVDA Pro 4.5 or 5.2.
Chienworks wrote on 3/29/2012, 9:29 PM
What happens if you try the import markers function in DVDA and select the .sfl file?
Geoff_Wood wrote on 3/29/2012, 11:00 PM
Has never worked for me with Vegas Markers, or Regions.

There is mention of using Regions as delimiters for Subtitles, but a simple VegasMarkers(or Regions)-to-Chapters sounds pretty fundamental.

Or have I been missing something all these years ?

geoff
Zeitgeist wrote on 3/29/2012, 11:09 PM
It would be very good if this worked. I've tried & I am unable. A friend told me Ultimate S could do it, but I couldn't make it work. Please, can anyone figure this out.
PeterDuke wrote on 3/30/2012, 7:12 AM
How do you import markers?

I selected Insert>Media and selected the audio .sfl file and got an error:
"The selected file is not of the required type."
farss wrote on 3/30/2012, 7:19 AM
"Never tried this, but just had reason to do so. Imported the audio into DVDA. Didn't work. Should it?"

Probably not. The markers in a DVD have to be at frame boundaries and the markers attached to an audio file might not be In fact the markers in a DVD have to be on an "I" frame so the restriction is even more specific come to think of it.

If you want to play something in a DVD which is audio only I'd suggest you encode a corresponding video stream of say black, you can use a very low bitrate, and attach the markers you need to that.

Bob.

PeterDuke wrote on 3/30/2012, 7:25 AM
Then when you export an audio file, why is a .sfl file produced? I have verified that it contains the markers.
Chienworks wrote on 3/30/2012, 8:56 AM
Because the .sfl contains the markers. That's why.

You don't get one with a .wav file because .wav files can contain extra metadata blocks for the markers. However, MP3/MPEG/AC3 files do not. Hence the need for an extra file for this information.
Arthur.S wrote on 3/30/2012, 2:09 PM
Did what Farss suggested in the end to make it work. Not something I'll be doing very often, so no real problem.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 3/30/2012, 11:33 PM
Who said anything about audio-only DVD ? The OP only mentioned importing an audio-only track into DVDA, which presumably matched up with a Video track, but not necessarily.

Audio and/or video, surely embedded Markers or Regions could snap to the frame boundaries in DVDA ...?

geoff
PeterDuke wrote on 3/31/2012, 12:33 AM
"Then when you export an audio file, why is a .sfl file produced?"

"Because the .sfl contains the markers"

My point was, why generate a marker file (or embedded markers for that matter) if DVDA doesn't use this info?
Rosebud wrote on 3/31/2012, 12:35 AM
Go in internal preferences (Ctrl+ Shift + Options>preferences)
Set "Media markers in video file" to FALSE.
And you should be able to load markers from audio files.
PeterDuke wrote on 3/31/2012, 12:53 AM
Didn't work for me.
Rosebud wrote on 3/31/2012, 1:00 AM
Tested with an AC3 file and works for me.
Did you restart DVD-A ?
PeterDuke wrote on 3/31/2012, 1:04 AM
No
PeterDuke wrote on 3/31/2012, 1:15 AM
OK, I restarted DVDA and still no go.

What I did was render the audio of a video with markers from Vegas, giving two files mkrtest.ac3 and mkrtest.ac3.sfl.

I opened DVDA after previously setting media markers in video to false. I then dragged the mkrtest.ac3 file to the timeline audio track. The audio is now present but I see no markers on the timeline. Where did I go wrong?
Rosebud wrote on 3/31/2012, 1:24 AM
I then dragged the mkrtest.ac3 file to the timeline audio track.

Be sure to not drag file to a menu timeline (there is no marker in a menu).
Drag it to the DVD structure (the left of the screen) and you should see the markers.
PeterDuke wrote on 3/31/2012, 4:32 AM
Yayyyy! That did it. Now I'll have to find a use for it before I forget how to do it.
Arthur.S wrote on 3/31/2012, 8:59 AM
"Go in internal preferences (Ctrl+ Shift + Options>preferences)

Genius! But does that mean I have to switch it back for markers as normal in video?

Edit: No! Just tried it. :-)
ChristoC wrote on 3/31/2012, 5:06 PM
when using separate files for Video & Audio:

- when set "Media markers in video file" = TRUE, markers in Video file are automatically used, markers in Audio are ignored.

- when set "Media markers in video file" = FALSE, pressing "Load Markers" icon uses markers in Audio file, markers in Video file are ignored.

Thus if your workflow is that markers are always in same places in both Video & Audio files it could make sense to leave "Media markers in video file" = FALSE


Arthur.S wrote on 4/1/2012, 7:10 AM
Good explanation Christo, thanks.
Zeitgeist wrote on 4/2/2012, 8:45 PM
WOW!!!! Rosebud you are the BEST!!! Thanks for sharing. This makes my workflow as a photographer montage maker much easier. Many blessings to you, your family, & all your endeavors.