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Subject:beatmapper/humanization Posted by: gyclone Date:12/14/2001 3:03:48 PM hello all, I am trying to add loops to a band recording that was not recorded using a click track. The band is good, so the tempo is roughly the same throughout the track. However, the band pushes and pulls throughout each bar/section. In my experience with the Beatmapper tool, it seems as though the Beatmapper just finds the average tempo for the beatmapped track, then sets the grid to that tempo. So when I add loops, they don't match up from beat to beat with the drums on the beatmapped track. Is there a way to set the grid so that it matches exactly the beats on the beatmapped track, so that the loop(s) will be resized from bar to bar as if each beat of the loop was being triggerred by the beatmapped track. I know that I could move the track to Sound Forge xp and make a region for each bar, determine the tempo for each bar, move it all back to Acid, and then insert Tempo change markers for each bar before adding my loops, but this would be horribly inneficient and time consuming. I know could I chop up the original track so that it would match the average tempo grid created with the Beatmapper, but this would also be inefficient and leave me with gaps in the original audio, not to mention removing most of the cool human elements of the original track. If anyone has any suggestions, I would gratly appreciate hearing them. Thanks very much! ps. I am using Acid Pro 3.0B
Subject:RE: beatmapper/humanization Reply by: spesimen Date:12/17/2001 12:10:42 PM check out ableton live, it does exactly what you're talking about. in acid you can accomplish a similar thing by breaking each bar out and manually adjusting the spacing..slow but it works.
Subject:RE: beatmapper/humanization Reply by: gyclone Date:12/17/2001 2:39:21 PM Thanks for the tip about ableton live, it looks like an interesting alternative. Hopefully Acid will develop a real "beat mapper" for the next version!

hello all,

I am trying to add loops to a band recording that was not recorded using a click track. The band is good, so the tempo is roughly the same throughout the track. However, the band pushes and pulls throughout each bar/section. In my experience with the Beatmapper tool, it seems as though the Beatmapper just finds the average tempo for the beatmapped track, then sets the grid to that tempo. So when I add loops, they don't match up from beat to beat with the drums on the beatmapped track.

Is there a way to set the grid so that it matches exactly the beats on the beatmapped track, so that the loop(s) will be resized from bar to bar as if each beat of the loop was being triggerred by the beatmapped track.

I know that I could move the track to Sound Forge xp and make a region for each bar, determine the tempo for each bar, move it all back to Acid, and then insert Tempo change markers for each bar before adding my loops, but this would be horribly inneficient and time consuming. I know could I chop up the original track so that it would match the average tempo grid created with the Beatmapper, but this would also be inefficient and leave me with gaps in the original audio, not to mention removing most of the cool human elements of the original track.

If anyone has any suggestions, I would gratly appreciate hearing them.

Thanks very much!

ps. I am using Acid Pro 3.0B