Music Video: Video & Audio Done in Vegas 12...

jrazz wrote on 2/6/2016, 10:34 AM
Hi all,

I've linked below a video that I made. I recorded the tracks straight into Vegas. Mixed in Vegas. Wrote the story board (Okay, that wasn't done in Vegas). Filmed, then edited and color-graded in Vegas. It took right at a month to get everything done.

The only problem that I ran into is that when I tried to do some light stabilization on a few of my events, it would go through the process but never do anything. I had to open another instance of Vegas and drag the footage to the timeline there, stabilize and then bring the footage back into the other Vegas timeline and realign. Did they fix this in Vegas 13?

I spent a bit over $14 dollars on the project to make my own slider that worked really well for what it was. The other stuff I already had (a tripod dolly, fluid head tripod, camera, preamp, etc.).

This was a side project and done for fun, but I would like to have some constructive feedback.

Let me know what you think:


j razz

Comments

Byron K wrote on 2/6/2016, 12:44 PM
Nice video, great tune!
The minor thing that I noticed was the window background shot 3:26 seemed to be really bright but I was also watching it in the dark so it may be more subdued if I watched it in regular light.

I thought I heard some distortion at 4:06?

She has a good voice.
jrazz wrote on 2/6/2016, 1:18 PM
Thanks Byron.

You indeed did hear some distortion at 4.06. I was trying to help build the crescendo there of the bass drum by increasing the volume and gain during that ~3 second spot. The levels definitely don't lie! Good catch. Everything else should have been under peak. It was fun doing more with the audio side of Vegas. I never really challenged myself with that aspect of Vegas.

The windows were blown out on purpose for a few reasons: 1. To keep the focus inside. 2. to keep the lighting/brightness how I wanted it inside. 3. to hide a rusty shed and mini-van :)

Thanks for listening. And I agree, she does have a good voice!

j razz
jrazz wrote on 2/6/2016, 1:26 PM
I did run into some horrible performance issues with the drone footage. They were shot with a DJI Phantom Advanced 3 using 2.7K video. The footage from my Canon 5Ds played like butter on my timeline at best full. The drone footage choked even at draft auto. I had to render it out as lossless before I could even work with it and I still got artifacting/blockiness on those shots. I wonder if it is the same problem that another mentioned regarding the goPro footage? Or it could just be that the odd resolution through Vegas for a loop.

I'm running a iCore7 4720HQ with a GeForce GTX 965m and 32 gigs of RAM.

j razz
Byron K wrote on 2/6/2016, 3:04 PM
I see, your reason for the window effect. Maybe masking the window w/ gausian blur might make a nice effect too, (won't show the "stuff" in the window). (;

Anyway, good job on the video!
farss wrote on 2/6/2016, 3:50 PM
I found a number of camera moves unsettling; for example the one that starts at around 20 seconds. The camera moves to tell us something and then wanders off as though drunk. Much the same happens starting at around 4:40, camera moves one way then next shot another and then we're looking down at the band and then spinning around. Then there's the shot at 4:30. Starts off badly framed and then the camera moves to resolve that, how is that helping the narrative?

After over a decade of doing all this only in the past week or so it's really sunk in that as an editor it's better cutting something that someone else shot. Project started with the person who'd shot it handing over the footage and insisting on showing me all the great things he'd done and that I really had to use. All but one didn't make it into the final cut. I expected a tantrum when I showed my first cut but quite the opposite. Spent a few more hours tightening up quite a few sloppy cuts, it just kept getting better.

Bob.
jrazz wrote on 2/6/2016, 8:49 PM
Thanks for the feedback Bob. At the beginning (where you mention the 20 second mark), it wasn't a drunk moment but a daydream moment. She was thinking back to her college days. The other parts you mention with the drone shots, I was just lucky to get any footage to work with for those segments. It was gusting over 25mph that day and out of the 30 minutes of footage I got from the drone, the shots that I have are all that I had to work with. In working with the storyboard I didn't have filler shots to use in those spots due to time constraints on the land. The spinning portion was to have gone higher and started spinning faster but we couldn't get that shot due to the wind. That whole outside scene was a dream sequence when she chose to nap over showering.

Regardless of the situation, I think you make some great points. I appreciate the feedback. I am curious, given the narrative, what would you have done at the 20 second mark? The funny thing is, I saw some completely different issues that I was not the happiest about. I guess it goes to show that it is important to get feedback from those that have nothing to do with the project; they see things you wouldn't.

On a completely different note, what part of Australia are you from? I thought about looking you up when I was touring the eastern coast of your country/continent :)

j razz
farss wrote on 2/7/2016, 5:00 AM
[I]"Thanks for the feedback Bob. At the beginning (where you mention the 20 second mark), it wasn't a drunk moment but a daydream moment. She was thinking back to her college days. "[/I]

OK but maybe I'm thick but nothing told me that.

[I]"The other parts you mention with the drone shots, I was just lucky to get any footage to work with for those segments."[/I]

Sure but it still goes back to the issue of "It doesn't matter what the shot cost, if it doesn't work it doesn't work". It's called "shot love", spent millions on it so it'd better be in the final cut even if it doesn't help tell the story...

I would have opened with shots of the band and her playing the song and intercut the flashback / dream stuff into that I guess that might seem a bit overt and cliché but don't expect the viewer to get it, I think you do need to take them by the hand.

[I]" On a completely different note, what part of Australia are you from?"[/I]

Australia only has one part, the best part, Sydney :)

Bob.

jrazz wrote on 2/7/2016, 7:43 AM
Thanks Bob. I do appreciate your thoughts on this. If you have anymore, please do share. Now, in the lyrics at the beginning she says she has been dreaming back to how things used to be when she was younger. But yes, it's not the strongest of connections unless you are listening closely or know the lyrics. Good catch.

Now Bob, Sydney's not all there is ;) My favorite stop during my travels was a little town called Dorrigo and the surrounding area. I also enjoyed Buderim, Lamington National Park, the Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast, Carnarvan Gorge, Lady Elliot Island... Your country has a lot to offer Bob! Now, Vivid Festival was really a site to behold!

j razz
JJKizak wrote on 2/7/2016, 7:54 AM
I liked it just fine.
JJK
Former user wrote on 2/7/2016, 11:01 AM
[I]"The funny thing is, I saw some completely different issues that I was not the happiest about."[/I]

Are you talking about your reflection in the shower stall glass door? ;-)

Jim
farss wrote on 2/7/2016, 3:11 PM
[I]"Now, in the lyrics at the beginning she says she has been dreaming back to how things used to be when she was younger."[/I]

Yes, I got that. What I was being shown was her in the present thinking of the past. The camera moves to reveal an old photo from her past, there's the "reason" for the camera to move, excellent.
Then the camera moves off her but sorry I cannot find a reason for it to move. It could have, should have, revealed something, maybe a scene from the past.

What's the narrative, was she once a singer in a band and life was great but now there's mountains of washing and kids parties to deal with? The "present" is banging on the door wanting to get in. I would have let the kids in to find their mum singing in the band. The antithesis of the Adele version where the conflict isn't resolved.

Bob.
jrazz wrote on 2/8/2016, 9:57 AM
Thanks JJKizak.

jdw yes, that is one of them. I did not have a circular polarizer for my 16-35mm L lens. :)

Bob, the narrative was that she was having a typical day at home with the kids and she took a few minutes to escape. While there her mind took her back to her college days with friends, when there wasn't a constant bombardment of questions from kids. The story then progresses to show her doing typical daily activities. Then the shift happens when she leans over the bed rail and ponders her dilemma: do I shower or do I take a nap. The song has been building and the second chorus is where you see the dream sequence (she chose to nap). In her dream she is singing with a band. That whole portion is done outside the house and away from children. You do see a cutback to the pinterest party scene, then you go back to the band. At the end, the drone spins and fades back into the bedroom where you see her sleeping (again, she chose to nap). That is where it ends with another child saying, "mom?".

Thanks again all for the feedback.

j razz