Subject:Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Posted by: Maruuk

Date:3/13/2002 4:50:42 PM

Combining Acid with Reason would be huge--now with Sonar 2.0, you have full Acid compatibility and audio/midi support (along with DXi support)with Reason's awesome capabilities. Note to Sonic Floundry: Wake up and smell the compatibility!

Subject:RE: Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Reply by: SHTUNOT

Date:3/13/2002 5:52:40 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. Plus if you checkout the cubase site they're also updating to cubase 6. Biggest shocker to others but not myself is that it will be only compatible with win2k/xp...no more win98 support. I called this in the vegas forums...They put all their development into one type of os[nt based]and added a SH!T load of new features.Love it or hate it win2k/XP is the os's that will bring your upgrades to its fullest potential/realization...Lets hope that soundcard companies see the trend and put their WDM driver projects in full gear...at least this way in about 2 more updates sofo products might support wdm :) .[I know bad joke...but I don't know which is funnier. That or adding a "master fader" in vegas video and calling it a major audio upgrade. Just keeping up with the jones if you ask me.]

Keeping my fingers crossed as usual. Later.

Subject:RE: Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Reply by: Spirit

Date:3/13/2002 7:59:31 PM

Acid 4 ?! Is this just "what you need to do next" talk or is something about to happen ?

Subject:RE: Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Reply by: billybk

Date:3/14/2002 8:43:03 AM

There has been no official announcement of an ACID 4.0 from SF. I think, Maruuk, like most ACID users assumes there will eventually be a 4.0 in the future. I think the ReWire 2.0 support was a good move on Cakes part, as many ReWire users have been looking for a suitable host with the capabilities that SONAR has. Also, SONAR 2.0 will reportedly have the direct ability to ACIDize its own Groove Clips for use in ACID. This is good news for the many of the SONAR/ACID users.

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:3/14/2002 6:01:42 PM

I suppose SoFo could do what Cakewalk did with their audio series and start calling Acid something else, but they won't because they've got a lot invested in the branding of the product.

Part 2, they've now run way down the line on bug fixes on 3.0, almost to an embarrasing degree (they've only got 26 letters to work with!) so they're gonna have to go 4.0 this year. And if they do, to be competetive, there'll have to be mucho goodies in the next rev. ReWire has now been adopted industry-wide as a standard strictly out of repect for what an incredible product Reason is (check out Reason 2.0 just announced at Musikmesse!)--so there are good things coming for us in the near future--it's the waiting that's the hardest part. There's a lot of pressure on SF to integrate and standardize and take Acid once and for all out of the toyland it's been lingering in. That new toy-Acid product for little kids is scary in that it has about 80% of the capability of Acid Pro for like, 10 cents. Acid must be upgraded and professionalized in a serious way. I know SF will step up to the plate here, and soon.

Subject:RE: Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:3/14/2002 8:21:51 PM

I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, but did anyone see Propellerhead's little blurb about becoming a ReWire developer?

Does anyone also think Propellerhead would even give SF a ReWire license, especially knowing programs like ReCycle are (somewhat) competitors to ACID?

Not that I actually care, but just a thought...

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Sonar 2.0 Has Rewire! Acid 4.0 must fall in line

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:3/15/2002 2:44:11 AM

Are you kidding? Prophead would LOVE SF to get its products into ReWire! Cakewalk openly touts its Acid compatibility in Plasma and Sonar, and it had no trouble getting a license. From the sound of the press release, P-heads will grant a license to ANY MAJOR developer, they just don't want to have to deal with a bunch of little, marginal operators and have to give them free support, etc.

But you raise a good and valid point about intercompany pissing wars that can gyp the consumer out of value and utility under the guise of "protecting proprietary properties". Practice shows that the consumer is tired of that crap and will actually support the companies embracing market standards rather than those that concentrate on defending a narrow strip of turf with their flag on it. But this tedious Rex2 vs. Acid incompatibility snit has no winners, only losers. Anything that forces musicians into two mutually-exclusive camps has the stink of the bad old days associated with it. It's time for open code and shared standards. Even if it means SoFo will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the developer table by all the other developers who aren't afraid of VST, DXi and ReWire, not to mention full midi and audio support. That's the future, plain and simple. If you don't cop to it, well, as Dylan so adroited stated, "The first ones now, will later be last. The times, they are a changin'."